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Uglysasquatch wrote:
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I think you should try to encourage people to try new things.
This.
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The French created parkour, which is the art of fighting by running away.
I always thought that was funny. Leave it to the French to make running away an art form.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Belkira wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I don't condone that type of behavior, but at the same time, I don't have the same amount of feelings for a dead person with a dead person who attempted to kill me.
Yeah, peeing on zombies is ok. Peeing on other soldiers who you have shot isn't so much.
Are you implying that the Soldier was just minding his own business and the big bad American just came out from an ambush, shot and then pissed on the guy? I explicitly said that it depends on what that person did to you. Zombie or not, if you try to kill someone, especially me, I no longer have the same sentiments for you as another person.
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
I don't condone that type of behavior, but at the same time, I don't have the same amount of feelings for a dead person with a dead person who attempted to kill me.
Yeah, peeing on zombies is ok. Peeing on other soldiers who you have shot isn't so much.
Are you implying that the Soldier was just minding his own business and the big bad American just came out from an ambush, shot and then pissed on the guy? I explicitly said that it depends on what that person did to you. Zombie or not, if you try to kill someone, especially me, I no longer have the same sentiments for you as another person.
I was implying that you said that a dead guy was trying to kill you. Which makes him a zombie.
And, are you implying that the American was just minding his own business when the Big Bad Afghan came along and shot at him? The two of you are doing the exact same thing. No one has the moral high ground here.
And there is something to be said for respecting another human being. More so to be said for showing enough self respect not to sink to the level of peeing on a dead body, no matter what the person did or did not do to you.
ETA: If this were an Afghan soldier peeing on a dead American soldier, these same morons who are saying that these "kids" should be left alone because they're in a "stressful situation" would be screaming for the Afghan soldier's head.
Edited, Jan 20th 2012 10:15pm by Belkira
#58Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 20 2012 at 10:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Didn't this thread already go over this? Besides, when these guys start playing by the rules of war, then they can have more sympathy. At least North Korea wears uniforms...That alone makes a huge difference!
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
I was implying that you said that a dead guy was trying to kill you. Which makes him a zombie.
Why would you infer that as opposed to the guy being alive trying to kill me then dying?
It's called a joke. Maybe you should add that one to your vocab flash cards...?
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
And, are you implying that the American was just minding his own business when the Big Bad Afghan came along and shot at him?
No, I'm not. That's why I said it depends on what the person did.
Belkira wrote:
The two of you are doing the exact same thing. No one has the moral high ground here.
There is indeed a difference. If a US serviceman randomly attacks an innocent village and that serviceman is killed and violated, then I have no sympathy for him. If a terrorist who is involved with the planning of or execution of the deaths of innocent people gets killed and violated, then I don't have any sympathy for him. If any person is innocent of any such said crimes, they do not deserve it. There is a high ground. If you choose not to accept that fact, then that's on you.
When you try to use the words "moral" and "fact" together, your argument flies out the window.
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
And there is something to be said for respecting another human being. More so to be said for showing enough self respect not to sink to the level of peeing on a dead body, no matter what the person did or did not do to you.
Yes, that sounds nice on paper, but not so much when someone rapes, assaults, steals, attempted to kill, etc. you, a friend or a family member. If you think that you (who is beyond emotional) are above the capability of feeling such anger and hatred after being placed in that situation, then you're sadly mistaken. Is it possible? Yes, but it isn't something that most people can do in a short time period.
As I said, I don't condone it, but at the same time, if a person is placed in that situation, then I can understand why it happened.
And was there a point in this discussion when I said I didn't understand the feelings that would lead to this idiotic act...?
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
ETA: If this were an Afghan soldier peeing on a dead American soldier, these same morons who are saying that these "kids" should be left alone because they're in a "stressful situation" would be screaming for the Afghan soldier's head.
Didn't this thread already go over this? Besides, when these guys start playing by the rules of war, then they can have more sympathy. At least North Korea wears uniforms...That alone makes a huge difference!
Once again, it's terrifying that you're in our armed services. Edited, Jan 20th 2012 11:08pm by Belkira
Yeah, but consider it like this: He's in the service in the same sense that the guy in charge of the deep fryer at McDonalds is a chef.
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lolgaxe wrote:
Yeah, but consider it like this: He's in the service in the same sense that the guy in charge of the deep fryer at McDonalds is a chef.
I do feel better when I imagine him as a fry cook at McDonald's...
Belkira wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Yeah, but consider it like this: He's in the service in the same sense that the guy in charge of the deep fryer at McDonalds is a chef.
I do feel better when I imagine him as a fry cook at McDonald's...
Did he take over Smash's job?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Pissing on the dead is okay, so long as they're Muslims. Muslims don't count as human beings. Or, y'know, something.
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#64Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 22 2012 at 12:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Based on the number one concept that was briefed during this war? You're really expressing your ignorance of the military. Don't try to put this on me, you will fail horribly.
#65Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 22 2012 at 12:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There's no one person in charge of a "deep fryer" at McDonalds.
Almalieque wrote:
My point is that while the act in itself might be disturbing, sympathy for the dead individual is situational. Since, you probably don't know the situation prior to the golden shower, you should reserve making such comments.
No one said anything about sympathy. I believe the phrase I have used is "respect for another human being." I have no doubt that the soldiers in question have zero sympathy for the guy who lost the shootout, nor would I expect them to.
I don't give a **** what the situation is. Pissing on an enemy soldier is an immature response, and when it comes from a member of our armed forces, who are supposed to be trained to respond to stressful situations and who are our representatives in war torn countries, it is completely unacceptable.
#67Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 22 2012 at 8:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) YOU are displaying sympathy for a person who could have been responsible for numerous deaths of innocent people. I don't condone the situation, but your reaction is just as immature. You said that you don't care about the situation, so this guy could have easily killed numerous of innocent people and you're more concerned about him getting a golden shower? Really? 
Or he could have bene someone forced into service with the Taliban. Who knows?
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I'll just check in on this thread in 36 pages, when y'all are arguing with Alma over whether or not it's gay to pee on a dead Afghan.
I don't care if a dead someone raped and tortured twenty innocent children before being killed. "We" are supposed to be better than "them". If you're feeling tormented and your torment has turned to hate, take it out on a cushion or a wall or the air or some other innocent inanimate thing or something.
I can understand desecrating a child torturer's corpse, or the corpses of the men who just killed my best buddy in the world, the guy who saved my life 10 times over. It's still not an excuse in my book.
Especially when you are representing your nation in a hideously complex and touchy location. Fuck, I know war twists, torments and brutalises anyone. We can't expect sane responses all the time from service personnel. But insane, or merely reprehensible behaviour from traumatised warriors has to be contained. It has to be punished and prevented as much as possible. Redirected and let out in as least harmful ways as possible.
I can understand desecrating a child torturer's corpse, or the corpses of the men who just killed my best buddy in the world, the guy who saved my life 10 times over. It's still not an excuse in my book.
Especially when you are representing your nation in a hideously complex and touchy location. Fuck, I know war twists, torments and brutalises anyone. We can't expect sane responses all the time from service personnel. But insane, or merely reprehensible behaviour from traumatised warriors has to be contained. It has to be punished and prevented as much as possible. Redirected and let out in as least harmful ways as possible.
Almalieque wrote:
YOU are displaying sympathy for a person who could have been responsible for numerous deaths of innocent people. I don't condone the situation, but your reaction is just as immature. You said that you don't care about the situation, so this guy could have easily killed numerous of innocent people and you're more concerned about him getting a golden shower? Really?
First: It's not sympathy. It's called "respect." More words for your vocabulary cards. And second, all of the people who are respectful towards American soldiers and want them to come home are displaying respect towards a person who could have been responsible for numerous deaths of innocent people. That's sort of the job of a soldier.
Aripyanfar wrote:
I don't care if a dead someone raped and tortured twenty innocent children before being killed. "We" are supposed to be better than "them". If you're feeling tormented and your torment has turned to hate, take it out on a cushion or a wall or the air or some other innocent inanimate thing or something.
I can understand desecrating a child torturer's corpse, or the corpses of the men who just killed my best buddy in the world, the guy who saved my life 10 times over. It's still not an excuse in my book.
Especially when you are representing your nation in a hideously complex and touchy location. Fuck, I know war twists, torments and brutalises anyone. We can't expect sane responses all the time from service personnel. But insane, or merely reprehensible behaviour from traumatised warriors has to be contained. It has to be punished and prevented as much as possible. Redirected and let out in as least harmful ways as possible.
I can understand desecrating a child torturer's corpse, or the corpses of the men who just killed my best buddy in the world, the guy who saved my life 10 times over. It's still not an excuse in my book.
Especially when you are representing your nation in a hideously complex and touchy location. Fuck, I know war twists, torments and brutalises anyone. We can't expect sane responses all the time from service personnel. But insane, or merely reprehensible behaviour from traumatised warriors has to be contained. It has to be punished and prevented as much as possible. Redirected and let out in as least harmful ways as possible.
Also this.
I wouldn't even call it displaying respect for enemy and evil-people corpses. It's just displaying Not Disrespect.
War and Parenthood. The two most difficult and important jobs in the world to get right.
Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 4:39pm by Aripyanfar
War and Parenthood. The two most difficult and important jobs in the world to get right.
Edited, Jan 22nd 2012 4:39pm by Aripyanfar
#74Almalieque,
Posted: Jan 24 2012 at 6:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Read above. You are focusing more on the fact that a dead guy got urinated on as opposed to the highly probable negative actions that guy has done. If you're a person of respect, then you would realize that it's likely that individual disregarded respect. You claimed that there's no "high road", so stop pretending that the U.S. should behave differently.
Almalieque wrote:
Exactly, you don't know.
Almalieque wrote:
You claimed that there's no "high road", so stop pretending that the U.S. should behave differently.
Edited, Jan 24th 2012 8:52am by Uglysasquatch
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You're being an idiot, Ugly.
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