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Negotiating rates for someone else's dime is what they do for fun.

Well, when you're an unquestioning lemming ...

Gingrich gave us "He's not a job creator, he's a job cremator."

This isn't really directly about Bain so much as it's about Romney's time at Bain. Romney is trying to hype up jobs from Staples and Sports Authority although much of their growth occurred without Romney and with capital from other firms besides Bain.

Maybe he'll get better at it but Romney's been going into it more tone-deaf than John "I don't know how many houses I own" McCain.

Well, Joph? At least you've given up trying to insist that a 30% support number at this point in the primary season is somehow low. That's a start at least!



Yup. And these attacks just upped Romney's cred with the fiscal conservative crowd more than anything else could have. Anyone who's reason for opposing Obama is because they believe that spending money to protect people from the symptoms of an economic downturn is hurtful to our economic recovery (and that's been the key issue for the last several years) now sees Romney as completely in tune with their own beliefs. They've been clamoring for someone who will take exactly the same sort of free market approach to government that Romney is being tied to with those attacks.


He couldn't have asked people to do him more of a favor.

I think perhaps you overestimate how many "fiscal conservatives" there are in this country.
If only they vote for this guy, Obama has nothing to worry about.

You acknowledge that 30% at this point in the primary process is not only not weak, but is pretty strong for a front runner?

Considering the nominee hopefuls this cycle seem to be a normal guy (Romney) and group of Special Olympic runners that wet themselves when the signal is given (Gingrich, Santorum, everyone else), you'd think Romney could garner better than 30%.

I did like that quote about dividing the 1 per cent from the 99 per cent... funny, they don't mind being divided when they're on their private jets or in exclusive clubs...

and regardless... does he really think it is strong messaging to cry about the one per cent being alienated? Like really? Maybe he should do some more focus group testing before he keeps that up.

Aaaaaand defending wall street brokers... but I guess that is real "tea-party" language amirite?

Edited, Jan 12th 2012 4:06pm by Olorinus

Uh... Yeah, no they didn't. They ran on "end runaway spending", with a promise to reverse/repeal much of the Obama spending programs once he could be defeated. I guess you could say that this is part of the whole "jobs" issue in that if we end the spending and get the deficit under control, businesses will start investing in jobs and unemployment will come down. But it's pretty absurdly simplistic to just say "jobs jobs jobs" was the entirety of the issue.


Both parties claim to know how to create jobs. The difference is how. The Dems argue that big government programs can create/save jobs. The GOP says that those things actually hurt job creation and what we need to do is limit spending and let the private market lead the recovery. The 2010 election was an overwhelming rejection of the Democrats method. So yeah, anything that paints Romney as the guy who's associated with the free market is going to resonate with the very same voters who tossed the Dems out 2 years ago.


You kinda need to look past the surface layer if you want to understand what's going on.

I'm guessing the amount of fiscal conservatives impressed with how Romney lead Bain to destroy multiple, profitable, companies by saddling them with debt & selling them off for massive profit is somewhat less than the amount of people whom lost their jobs because of it.

So this does not get Romney more votes.

And it's amazing how frequently posters on this forum follow suit.

Have you never heard of Goldman Sachs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? They made tons of money packaging debt ridden business and selling it off. That was how they got rich, of course its also how they all went tits up and needed the government to bail them out.

Yippie Capitalism.

Its the good old pump and dump with a twist.