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Not if the question I'm asking is "Why did it change from state1 to state2". No. Why would I?



And yet, when you couple the word "low" with the word "relatively", in the context I was using it, most people should be able to noodle out that the turnout was low "relative to the previous election". At the risk of repeating myself, had I used the word "historically", you'd have a point. But I didn't.



Um... But if you were asking why your girlfriends head hit an overhang while the midget next to her didn't, and someone said she was "relatively tall", wouldn't the reasonable assumption be that she's tall relative to the midget and that this is why she hit her head?


It would be quite strange for you to instead assume that the other person was speaking in terms of average heights of people overall, since that has nothing at all to do with the discussion at hand. And even more strange to continue to argue that this must have been what the other person meant, even though it makes no sense at all and he's continually explained to you what he was talking about. And then even more more strange to attempt to argue that the other person is wrong somehow in his assessment as to why your girlfriend hit her head because you insist on clinging to a completely absurd interpretation of what he said rather than the very reasonable and logical one that makes perfect sense.




And compared to a typical passenger car, 5 quarts of oil would be plenty to run in my engine. Sadly, that would leave my car about 3.8 quarts low and probably cause massive damage. Do you see how comparing to "typical" cases is often not very useful?

You predicted that the GOP top choice was the GOP top choice. Congratulations on claiming to predict what everyone knew.

Well, everyone except that one conspiracy theorist and varus.

A 20/20 hindsight version of "everyone" which apparently did not include the numerous pundits insisting at the time that the up and down of a succession of other GOP candidates in the polls indicated an "anyone but Romney" attitude by GOP voters. I said (many months ago), that it really indicated a comfort by GOP voters with Romney, but a willingness to look at the rest of the field "just in case". I believe I even used phrases like "safe bet", "known quantity", and "keeping him in their back pocket".

You're the only one who seemed to think this. Even so, if this is honestly what you meant then sure you're right, and I have to apologize for two things. First I'd apologize for calling you incorrect. Second I'd apologize for thinking you were saying something meaningful.

Yes they lost the election because they got less votes than that time they won the election. Relative to an extreme, everything else will be less.

So I guess I nailed it before.

I bet he polls really well against the other GOP nominees in September.

Haha... I was listening to someone on the radio a few days ago (Michael Medved?) say it was "possible" that Madam Secretary Clinton could take 20% of the NH ballot with write-ins and this would show just how weak Obama was! Sadly, this doesn't seem to have been the case.

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Edited, Jan 11th 2012 8:51am by Jophiel

And? Aren't you're doing the same thing in reverse when making a big deal about Romney only getting 30% when there are 5 (likely 6 when most of those polls were taken) other candidates in the race?

What amazes me is pundits last night (all across the cable spectrum) were *still* trying to make the "Romney just doesn't click with conservatives" argument. What does it take for them to realize that this isn't true no matter how many times they say it? The guy's only the first GOP non-incumbent to win both Iowa and New Hampshire ever. I just find it funny that the pundits keep saying this while the voters appear to be doing the exact opposite.


This is the strongest conservative support behind a GOP candidate this early in the race (who wasn't an incumbent) ever. I suppose it's possible someone else could charge up a head of steam, but odds are this primary race will be pretty much locked up by February sometime.

It was locked up since before Trump threw his weird hairdo into the ring and subsequently withdrew it. The only people that seem to be surprised at this point seem to be people who's jobs involve getting ratings.

No. It shows that when you present people with multiple options in a poll, they'll tend to spread their picks out. This is true in pretty much any poll on any topic. In Jan of 2008, want to know where Obama was polling in a race with only three contestants? Pretty close to where Romney is in a race with twice as many. I'd say a consistent 30% support in this race this early is pretty darn strong.



How many candidates do you think will drop out in the next two weeks Joph?



And? We're one week into the primaries Joph. You honestly don't realize that many voters wait to see how candidates do in those early primaries before firming up their support? That's kinda bizarre because it's the core reason *why* those early primaries are considered to be so important.



I'm not worried at all about it. I know that the liberal rhetoric is to keep pushing the "Romney doesn't have strong support" line as much as possible, but at a certain point, you're really just lying to yourselves and not fooling anyone else.



Does that excuse really make you feel safer?

Excuse? Does calling an (possible) 8 vote margin a "Win" and saying "OMG He WON Iowa!" really make you feel safer?

Romney just keeps on giving. On the same day the Newt Foundation releases their "King of Bain" video, Romney tells us that questions about distribution of wealth come from envy and that any discussion about things like tax policy should be kept to "quiet rooms"



Edited, Jan 11th 2012 6:17pm by Jophiel

My favorite Romneyism is "I like to fire people."

By people, of course, he meant insurance companies, but since he believes corporations are people too, it's all one and the same.

You can see why Gbaji likes this guy. Capitalism is his religion, and this is one of his high priests.

Romney was a decent Governor back when he was a moderate. I don't really know what to say about Romney 2.0: Presidential edition.

Bain Capitol people are douchebags though. Theyn didn't even pay for their own rooms & still ******* about the negotiated rates at my last hotel.