The political climate is ripe for a new thirdish party to make a move.
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
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Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
The political climate is ripe for a new thirdish party to make a move.
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
Who would it represent?
Ultra liberals and ultra conservatives are too small of groups to be effective. I would guess you're talking about either the Tea Party, the religious right, or the OWS folks? Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
Edit: Rather, the only group I see being large enough to have their own party would be the religious right, which I would estimate is about 20-25% of the country and the majority of the Republican party. Forming their own party would gut the GOP and surely help the Democrats. Granted, I'd be more inclined to vote Republican then, as they could actually focus on fiscal conservatism instead of social conservatism, but I don't think too many people would change their minds.
Edited, Nov 17th 2011 8:56am by LockeColeMA
LockeColeMA wrote:
Elinda wrote:
The political climate is ripe for a new thirdish party to make a move.
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
Who would it represent?
Ultra liberals and ultra conservatives are too small of groups to be effective. I would guess you're talking about either the Tea Party, the religious right, or the OWS folks? Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
Edit: Rather, the only group I see being large enough to have their own party would be the religious right, which I would estimate is about 20-25% of the country and the majority of the Republican party. Forming their own party would gut the GOP and surely help the Democrats. Granted, I'd be more inclined to vote Republican then, as they could actually focus on fiscal conservatism instead of social conservatism, but I don't think too many people would change their minds.
Edited, Nov 17th 2011 8:56am by LockeColeMA
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Demicans or Republicrats? 
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Edited, Nov 17th 2011 3:00pm by Elinda
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Edited, Nov 17th 2011 3:00pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
LockeColeMA wrote:
Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
I stand by my statement. If you're an actual independent, you vote on candidate, not party.
LockeColeMA wrote:
Elinda wrote:
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
LockeColeMA wrote:
Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
I stand by my statement. If you're an actual independent, you vote on candidate, not party.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
LockeColeMA wrote:
Elinda wrote:
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
LockeColeMA wrote:
Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
I stand by my statement. If you're an actual independent, you vote on candidate, not party.
Constitution Party? Green Party? Libertarian Party? America First Party? Christian Liberty Party? America's Party? American Patriot Party? American Party? Independent American Party? Conservative Party of New York? Alaskan Independence Party? Florida Whig Party? Americans Elect? Citizens Party? Independence Party of America? Modern Whig Party? Reform Party of the United States of America? Unity Party of America? Independence Party of Minnesota? Moderate Party (Illinois)? Republican Moderate? Party of Alaska? Moderate Party of Rhode Island? Working Families Party? Labor Party? Socialist Party USA? Communist Party USA? Socialist Labor Party of America? Party for Socialism and Liberation? Progressive Labor Party (USA)? Socialist Equality Party (United States)? Socialist Workers Party? World Socialist Party of the United States? Workers Party, USA? Workers World Party? Freedom Road Socialist Organization (freedomroad.org)? Freedom Road Socialist Organization (frso.org)? Freedom Socialist Party? Revolutionary Communist Party, USA? Socialist Action? Socialist Alternative? U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization? Liberal Party of New York? Vermont Progressive Party? Liberty Union Party? Peace and Freedom Party? American Populist Party? Boston Tea Party? Jefferson Republican Party? Objectivist Party? Populist Party of America? American Reform Party? American **** Party (revived)? National Socialist Movement? American Third Position Party? La Raza Unida Party? Prohibition Party? Pirate Party of the United States? United States Marijuana Party? New York State Right to Life Party? Rent Is Too Damn High Party?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Elinda wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Elinda wrote:
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
LockeColeMA wrote:
Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
I stand by my statement. If you're an actual independent, you vote on candidate, not party.
Says who? We'd be better off fixing the election system than trying to trump up a 3rd party. Washington warned against a party system, and yet it's the current basis on who shows up on our national ballots.
lolgaxe wrote:
Constitution Party? Green Party? Libertarian Party? America First Party? Christian Liberty Party? America's Party? American Patriot Party? American Party? Independent American Party? Conservative Party of New York? Alaskan Independence Party? Florida Whig Party? Americans Elect? Citizens Party? Independence Party of America? Modern Whig Party? Reform Party of the United States of America? Unity Party of America? Independence Party of Minnesota? Moderate Party (Illinois)? Republican Moderate? Party of Alaska? Moderate Party of Rhode Island? Working Families Party? Labor Party? Socialist Party USA? Communist Party USA? Socialist Labor Party of America? Party for Socialism and Liberation? Progressive Labor Party (USA)? Socialist Equality Party (United States)? Socialist Workers Party? World Socialist Party of the United States? Workers Party, USA? Workers World Party? Freedom Road Socialist Organization (freedomroad.org)? Freedom Road Socialist Organization (frso.org)? Freedom Socialist Party? Revolutionary Communist Party, USA? Socialist Action? Socialist Alternative? U.S. Marxist-Leninist Organization? Liberal Party of New York? Vermont Progressive Party? Liberty Union Party? Peace and Freedom Party? American Populist Party? Boston Tea Party? Jefferson Republican Party? Objectivist Party? Populist Party of America? American Reform Party? American **** Party (revived)? National Socialist Movement? American Third Position Party? La Raza Unida Party? Prohibition Party? Pirate Party of the United States? United States Marijuana Party? New York State Right to Life Party? Rent Is Too Damn High Party?
Key Party.
Politicians in a Key Party?
Ew.
Ew.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Keg Party!
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Elinda wrote:
The political climate is ripe for a new thirdish party to make a move.
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
What should the new party be called?
What should be it's platform?
Who should be it's presidential candidate(s)?
What should be it's representative animal and color?
http://www.americanselect.org/
Duke Lubriderm wrote:
Elinda wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
Elinda wrote:
It could be said that the two parties themselves have gone to far to the edges. How about one to fill in the middle?
LockeColeMA wrote:
Independents are too diverse to encompass all their views in one party.
I stand by my statement. If you're an actual independent, you vote on candidate, not party.
Says who? We'd be better off fixing the election system than trying to trump up a 3rd party. Washington warned against a party system, and yet it's the current basis on who shows up on our national ballots.
The communication resources now available via the internets can provide for more diversity in candidates. I think we're still too sheepish though, at least for the next couple elections, to be able to bring a candidate to a viable spot on the presidential ballot without party backing.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
A candidate without party backing will have almost no chance of making it on a national scale for the simple reason of money. Party backing and fundraising (RNC/DNC and the Congressional versions), allied PACs and guaranteed ballot access without the lengthy and expensive petition process.
Why do you think Congressional libertarians run on the Republican ticket and socialists/Greens run on the Democratic ticket? Even Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had a deal with Senator Schumer that the DSCC wouldn't back a Democratic opponent to Sanders' run.
Speaking of, for a Congresscritter, once you get into office you had better caucus with one of the parties or else you're immediately shut out of any committee assignments. Which is why "independents" like Lieberman still belong to the Democratic party for all practical purposes. An independent who isn't caucusing with D or R is neutered the moment they enter office since they'll never have the influence on the process his fellow Congress members do.
I'm not saying this is all good or bad but it's just the way of things. You're better off getting involved at a basic level in the party you most identify with and trying to steer them in your preferred direction than to wish for a third party.
Why do you think Congressional libertarians run on the Republican ticket and socialists/Greens run on the Democratic ticket? Even Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had a deal with Senator Schumer that the DSCC wouldn't back a Democratic opponent to Sanders' run.
Speaking of, for a Congresscritter, once you get into office you had better caucus with one of the parties or else you're immediately shut out of any committee assignments. Which is why "independents" like Lieberman still belong to the Democratic party for all practical purposes. An independent who isn't caucusing with D or R is neutered the moment they enter office since they'll never have the influence on the process his fellow Congress members do.
I'm not saying this is all good or bad but it's just the way of things. You're better off getting involved at a basic level in the party you most identify with and trying to steer them in your preferred direction than to wish for a third party.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Realistically, there won't be a viable third party unless there is structural change in the underlying mechanics of our political system. We use a majority take all, and money heavy election system which necessarily polarizes your political agents.
Just as Planned.
Timelordwho wrote:
Realistically, there won't be a viable third party unless there is structural change in the underlying mechanics of our political system. We use a majority take all, and money heavy election system which necessarily polarizes your political agents.
From what I understand, as a voter you make a top pick and then a second pick. I'm not sure if you're allowed to put down the same name twice or not????
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Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Debalic wrote:
Keg Party!
The way they act, you'd think this was the case already.
Speaking of, some damn group keeps calling my house pitching their idea for open ranked primaries where the #1 & #2 get to compete in the general regardless of their party affiliation.
Then they asked me for $1,000 to contribute to their cause
Then they asked me for $1,000 to contribute to their cause
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Speaking of, some damn group keeps calling my house pitching their idea for open ranked primaries where the #1 & #2 get to compete in the general regardless of their party affiliation.
Then they asked me for $1,000 to contribute to their cause
Then they asked me for $1,000 to contribute to their cause
They started those a while back up here. Political parties started holding closed primaries (only registered party members could vote) to ensure they'd get their candidate to the general election. Cheese got moved, but little changed.
That monster in the mirror, he just might be you. -Grover
What is it's favorite color?
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Edited, Nov 17th 2011 10:16am by Belkira
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
What is it's favorite color?
Edited, Nov 17th 2011 10:16am by Belkira
Edited, Nov 17th 2011 10:16am by Belkira
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
What is it's favorite color?
Edited, Nov 17th 2011 10:16am by Belkira
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Shedding it's snakeskin and selling it's platform under various rhetorical veneers to appeal to different constituent groups, while being beholden to corporate shareholders?
I think we're already full up on parties like that.
Just as Planned.
We should go with a House Party, if only to see the international reaction to hair that tall.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
The Coffee party started as a reaction against the Tea Party (Wake up America!!!1!11!) but it then sort of folded into The Other 98%, which has now blossomed into OWS and The 99%.
I'd like to see the Facts Only party. No spin, no opinions, only cold hard facts allowed.
I'd like to see the Facts Only party. No spin, no opinions, only cold hard facts allowed.
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Posted: Nov 17 2011 at 12:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I see you liberals are starting to get more nervous with each passing day. You're hoping and praying for another ross perot spoiler but it's just not going to happen.
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