Obama forgets where asia isFollow

Probably because oil is sold on the global commodities market. Canada will sell their oil to whoever wants to buy it whenever they want to buy it for whatever the market price is at the moment. Do you honestly think China is actually hurting for someone to sell them oil? If they were, they'd just be buying more off the market and driving the price up.

You must have a low bar for your definition of "hysterics". And can we agree that people don't normally accidentally bow? My assumption here is that Obama does actually know where Asia is relative to Hawaii, and just misspoke. But the same can't be said for bowing. He choose to do that for some completely unexplained reason. Similarly, if there was information that Obama intentionally said Hawaii was in Asia, then I'd think there was more to it as well. But the most sensible assumption is that he does know where Asia is an simply misspoke.

The same assumption doesn't work for bowing. People in Western culture do not bow. We certainly don't do it reflexively or accidentally. So yeah, seeing our president bowing to so many foreign leaders is a bit of a concern.

It was worth a couple pages of hand-wringing from you. I'd say it qualifies on the webbernetz but I don't blame you for being embarrassed about it now

Thanks for ignoring the rest of the post with your fancy quoting techniques. But that aside, you do know that transportation costs are added onto the sales price, and that not allowing the pipeline actually costs your country more money to import it.

What the real issue is, is that Canada is the driving the north american economy atm, and if the US isn't going to venture on mutually beneficial initiatives (large in part due to its current isolationist mindset and buy American propaganda).

Canada is shackled to the USA, there is no escaping it, but the US has just ousted a very profitable project for both our countries, and if Canada wishes to grow we have to export our commodities, and if the US doesn't want it, then we will ship it to someone who does.

Again your country is holding us back presently, I imagine it won't last forever, either the US will ultimately collapse and Canada will move on, or the US will rebound and start taking up some of these tabled intercontinental offers that Canada and Mexico have been trying to push for the last couple of years, especially concerning fossil fuels.

Apparently, only rdm didn't know that.

And by "hand-wringing" you mean 2 pages of me repeatedly explaining to you that it's not perfectly normal for a US president to bow to foreign leaders, and yes it really does send the wrong message. Is this another example of the liberal tendency to define everything in all-or-nothing terms? Either I must completely dismiss Obama's bowing as nothing at all, or I'm blowing things out of proportion and being hysterical about it? Isn't there some middle ground where I'm not hysterical, but I do think it's not the right thing for him to do and maybe he should knock it off?


I think so. But good job finding a crappy example though. You get extra Joph points for that!

No, the sale price was whatever the global commodities market allowed for when it was purchased. Which is why oil exporting nations make bank when prices are high and hurt when prices are low.

I'm deeply sorry I didn't give your little ********* about the US the attention you felt it deserved. It's not really relevant to the fact that Harper's statement was an empty threat no matter how much nationalism it stirred in your frozen Canadian heart


Good news for Mexico and Venezuela, I suppose.


...Crying repeatedly about a topic that mattered to no one except people who are spoonfed their opinions by conservative pundits and CNS News, yes. I think the golden highlight was pointing out how this didn't register a single blip in the Asian media (except a single article in a US-centric source saying 'Lookit them silly Americans getting worked up') and you crowed how this just proved it because they'd never talk about it publicly so now we knew it was all hushed scandalized whispers!

I'd award extra points for that but if I did that every time you went off the rails into partisan nuttiness, you'd be up to a kajillion points by now. On the plus side, I just got you to spend a couple posts arguing against the idea that you're more rational than Varus so go me, I guess.

Edited, Nov 15th 2011 11:45pm by Jophiel