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Why is it that whenever someone talks about subsidies to companies like Solyndra, instead of defending those subsidies, you turn onto a rant about oil company subsidies?
Perspective? Because it's interesting to see the huge political bias of someone going into a foaming lather over an amount that's a bare fraction of their sacred cows? Because it lets me know just how seriously I should take someone when they're obsessing over the speck and ignoring the beam?
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They also aren't the current sitting Democrat President, who is the largest single recipient of BP campaign contributions over the last 20 years. Which is a great feat given that he's only been in federal level politics for the last 5.
Congratulations on frantic Googling! "Oh... sh
it... I need... Yeah! This'll make the GOP look less bad!"
Oh, wait. Obama is in
favor of cutting all those subsidies and has actually called on Congress to do so. Ouch! That has got to hurt.
By the way, BP ranked ninth in total campaign giving among the oil industries in the 2008 cycle ($491k). And it was split 39%-61% between Democratic and GOP candidates with the GOP getting the lion's share. Want to know who number one was? Take a guess.
Koch Industries with $1.9 million in the 2008 cycle. I won't insult your intelligence by asking you to guess where that money went. But great job parroting some little BP factoid you pulled from the net!
Fun side fact: In 2010, BP didn't even rank in the top 20 for giving but Koch Industries managed to give over two million dollars that time around. More than during the presidential election cycle. Again, you can guess where that went. Quote:
Both parties are recipients of oil company contributions Joph. Stop trying to pretend that this is all about the GOP taking money from big oil and then rewarding them with government subsidies. That is simply not the case. Both parties accept contributions, and both parties have some hand in the subsidies.
Yeah, it's just that the GOP took in
over $138 million in the elections from 2000-2010 whereas Democrats took in barely over $30 million. But what's over a 4:1 ratio if we can just say "They both do it!" and pray that everyone just says "Oh, so they must be the same then"?
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Kind of like I said. Funny, huh? Tell me, Gbaji, exactly which GOP members are leading the charge on eliminating $25bil in subsidies to the oil industry?
Which Dem members are? What's your point?
Well, point (A) was that the GOP continues to defend these subsidies because they would rather pay out 85x the cost of a Solyndra or 840x the cost of NPR if it means they can keep the cash-flow coming to them. Point (B) was that your little "No, conservatives actually
hate those subsidies! Honest!" falls pretty flat when I can tell you who was rallying the troops to eliminate the $50m beat that's NPR but you apparently can't name a single GOP congresscritter who has fought to eliminate these subsidies. So you can cry and say "No, it's not that much if you cut out this and this and this that I say don't count!"
How much it is, Gbaji? What's the amount
so small that not a single GOP "conservative" cares enough to eliminate it? Must be less than an NPR, right?
Want to grow up yet and admit the truth?
Edit: Whoops. Got my ratio way wrong! Edited, Oct 13th 2011 6:47pm by Jophiel