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#77 Oct 06 2011 at 5:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well my personal view is against censorship in anyway, but I realize that's not a very popular belief. I don't see how this can be approached by any other angle, can you elaborate?

I've already read your posts, but I like some confirmation.

I'm not about to rewrite their dress code for them so I'm speaking in generalities but I don't think it's unreasonable to list criteria for judging whether something is acceptable or not. Promoting exclusive organizations ("hate groups") is something I would put on said list, for example as well as obscene material, depictions of nudity, etc. At least then, if someone complains about ducklings, you can put it on them to make an argument why ducklings are obscene.
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#78 Oct 06 2011 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
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A friend of mine's school had two simultaneous lawsuits filed against them a few years ago. One was a student suing because he was not allowed to wear a t-shirt with a gay-rights message. The other was students suing because they felt that the gay-rights message on the first students t-shirt was offensive.
What school was this? I'd like to look this up. I'd like to know what statute was being violated by someone 'being offended.' I'm not even asking for a citation, I'll happily look it up on my own. It would be great if you could provide a rough time line, also.
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#79 Oct 06 2011 at 6:40 AM Rating: Good
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Easy problem to solve, really. If someone at a public school has a history of bullying, you throw him/her out...permanently.
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#80 Oct 06 2011 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Easy problem to solve, really. If someone at a public school has a history of bullying, you throw him/her out...permanently.
Then you just push the problem to police and corrections. We should at least try to fix them while they are young.
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#81 Oct 06 2011 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
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Friar Bijou wrote:
Easy problem to solve, really. If someone at a public school has a history of bullying, you throw him/her out...permanently.
Then you just push the problem to police and corrections. We should at least try to fix them while they are young.


If someone confronts you and curses at you, they are disturbing the peace. CRIME

If someone threatens to physically harm you, or make an attempt to do so, it's assault and/or assault and battery. CRIME

If someone consistently follows you around, it's stalking. CRIME

If someone is doing this in a school environment, they need to go. If they can be rehabilitated, ok, let them back in, otherwise, **** no.

The needs of the many, etc.


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#83 Oct 06 2011 at 7:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's really only one kind of shirt that could really offend me.

Nickelback t-shirts. That shit should be illegal.
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#84 Oct 06 2011 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Student knows what will provoke educator. Educator allows himself to be drawn into a conflict. Students mommy and daddy sue educator. Nope havn't seen this before.


Exactly: the educator was in the wrong. An adult who would physically intimidate a child has no place in education, provocation or not.

Suddenly I'm starting to get an inkling of why you didn't last in education Smiley: nod
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#85 Oct 06 2011 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Suddenly I'm starting to get an inkling of why you didn't last in education Smiley: nod
Suddenly?
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#86 Oct 06 2011 at 8:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Suddenly I'm starting to get an inkling of why you didn't last in education Smiley: nod
Suddenly?

Before I figured he quit; now I'm guessing he's talking about himself getting into an argument with a student, being sued, and having to leave in disgrace. Gives a fuller picture, no?
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#87REDACTED, Posted: Oct 06 2011 at 8:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Locked,
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#88 Oct 06 2011 at 8:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Never been accused of being the sharpest tool in the shed have you.

Of course not; unlike you, I'm not a tool.

ZING!

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Neither should children who provoke unrest, or cause distractions, among the majority of students.

All right, so sue and fire the principal, and give the kid detention. A kid being provocative (if a "GSA: We've Got Your Back" shirt slogan can even be called that) is no excuse for physical contact or physical intimidation by an adult, let alone an educator, let alone a principal.

Edited, Oct 6th 2011 10:18am by LockeColeMA
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#90 Oct 06 2011 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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Most of what I read was heresay based on the statements from some flaming **** kids.
Going to show you didn't read it.
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#91 Oct 06 2011 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Varus is a big fan of the Stop Hitting Yourself! rule he introduced to the local school board
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#92 Oct 06 2011 at 8:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Locked,

Did you read the article? Most of what I read was heresay based on the statements from some flaming **** kids. Offended ****** are almost as spiteful as a p*ssed of b*tch.

Yes, I did, but we know you don't read articles so don't get cute and pretend you do Smiley: lol It's on the Drudge Report too if you wanted to find another article on it. There are two witnesses to the assault, and then a third to physical intimidation (shouting at the kid while standing over him). Not to mention the principal cleared an entire class during the middle of an exam to have his little lecture.

... you don't happen to have any relatives working at this HS by any chance?
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#93 Oct 06 2011 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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So the kid wears a shirt that is within the rules to wear, but the content is upsetting to some and so causes unrest and disruption.

Sounds like it's a two-fold problem.

A teacher is certainly within their duties to ask that the student refrain from doing whatever it is that is disruptive - in this case wearing the GSA shirt.

The kid, if he wanted to work towards a goal of tolerance and understanding might have used this request as a bargaining tool. Maybe agree to remove the t-shirt if the school agrees to provide some sort of tangible support for bullied kids, or sanctions the GSA or whatever. Instead, like a typical teen, he probably got belligerent, maybe mouthy but ultimately flatly refused to comply with the teachers request.

So, now it comes down to a student refusing to comply with the demands of the teacher.

It sounds like the teachers response to the kids refusal was totally off-base, chest-bumping is very much bullying. The kids behavior can be excused - hes'a kid. The teachers, not so much. An adult that is specifically trained to work with teens should know better.




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#94REDACTED, Posted: Oct 06 2011 at 8:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Elinda,
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#95 Oct 06 2011 at 8:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Student knows what will provoke educator. Educator allows himself to be drawn into a conflict. Students mommy and daddy sue educator. Nope havn't seen this before.
Suddenly I'm starting to get an inkling of why you didn't last in education Smiley: nod

Is it a surprise that Varus was regularly outwitted by children?
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#96 Oct 06 2011 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Elinda,

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. An adult that is specifically trained to work with teens should know better.


Teens should know better than to get into fights but they do. Does this mean the police need to be called for every jr high and high school fight?

If a teacher is making physical contact with a student? HELL YES!
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#97 Oct 06 2011 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Elinda,

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. An adult that is specifically trained to work with teens should know better.


Teens should know better than to get into fights but they do.

Everyone should know better than to get into fights, but it still happens.
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LockeColeMA wrote:
All right, so sue and fire the principal, and give the kid detention. A kid being provocative (if a "GSA: We've Got Your Back" shirt slogan can even be called that) is no excuse for physical contact or physical intimidation by an adult, let alone an educator, let alone a principal.
Very offensive, that slogan totally hints at surprise buttsex.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
All right, so sue and fire the principal, and give the kid detention. A kid being provocative (if a "GSA: We've Got Your Back" shirt slogan can even be called that) is no excuse for physical contact or physical intimidation by an adult, let alone an educator, let alone a principal.
Very offensive, that slogan totally hints at surprise buttsex.

What's offensive about surprise buttsex? Smiley: dubious
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
All right, so sue and fire the principal, and give the kid detention. A kid being provocative (if a "GSA: We've Got Your Back" shirt slogan can even be called that) is no excuse for physical contact or physical intimidation by an adult, let alone an educator, let alone a principal.
Very offensive, that slogan totally hints at surprise buttsex.

What's offensive about surprise buttsex? Smiley: dubious
I can understand surprise buttsex being offensive to the people who do not like buttsex.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
All right, so sue and fire the principal, and give the kid detention. A kid being provocative (if a "GSA: We've Got Your Back" shirt slogan can even be called that) is no excuse for physical contact or physical intimidation by an adult, let alone an educator, let alone a principal.
Very offensive, that slogan totally hints at surprise buttsex.

What's offensive about surprise buttsex? Smiley: dubious
I can understand surprise buttsex being offensive to the people who do not like buttsex.

Psh, there are only two types of people. Those who like buttsex and those who haven't tried it yet.
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