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Good thing I said "train" and not "subway", huh? You'd almost think there was a reason for it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The only time I can remember that there's been enough of a power issue to take out our subways was like ... 2003(? Might be before or after) when almost the entire Northeast was knocked out. So ... I guess that's kind of similar to roving blackouts in one rural village.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
The only time I can remember that there's been enough of a power issue to take out our subways was like ... 2003(? Might be before or after) when almost the entire Northeast was knocked out. So ... I guess that's kind of similar to roving blackouts in one rural village.
Yeah, it was 2003 when the entire Northeast lost power. What did New Yorkers do? Go outside and barbecue.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Jophiel wrote:
Good thing I said "train" and not "subway", huh? You'd almost think there was a reason for it.
Good thing that trains are the only form of mass transit we were discussing in that other thread. Because then there'd be no reason to mention subways.
King Nobby wrote:
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Debalic wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
The only time I can remember that there's been enough of a power issue to take out our subways was like ... 2003(? Might be before or after) when almost the entire Northeast was knocked out. So ... I guess that's kind of similar to roving blackouts in one rural village.
Yeah, it was 2003 when the entire Northeast lost power. What did New Yorkers do? Go outside and barbecue.
Except for all the folks stuck wherever they were and who couldn't get home because they didn't own cars and the mass transit systems were largely down. I seem to recall pictures of miserable people sleeping on benches in subway stations waiting for the power to come back on.
Hmmmm...
King Nobby wrote:
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That was actually this thread. Try and keep up 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
This is proof that New York's subways suck! With how common power outages that blackout half a dozen states and part of Canada, we should be looking at ways to improve them so people don't get stranded like that again.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
gbaji wrote:
Debalic wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
The only time I can remember that there's been enough of a power issue to take out our subways was like ... 2003(? Might be before or after) when almost the entire Northeast was knocked out. So ... I guess that's kind of similar to roving blackouts in one rural village.
Yeah, it was 2003 when the entire Northeast lost power. What did New Yorkers do? Go outside and barbecue.
Except for all the folks stuck wherever they were and who couldn't get home because they didn't own cars and the mass transit systems were largely down. I seem to recall pictures of miserable people sleeping on benches in subway stations waiting for the power to come back on.
Hmmmm...
Yeah, unfortunately people will be inconvenienced whenever there's a power outage.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
lolgaxe wrote:
This is proof that New York's subways suck! With how common power outages that blackout half a dozen states and part of Canada, we should be looking at ways to improve them so people don't get stranded like that again.
The point being that when such events occur in areas designed for car traffic, it's a minor inconvenience at best. When they happen in areas dependent on mass transit system (electric trains specifically), they cause massive problems for many people.
King Nobby wrote:
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gbaji wrote:
The point is that in my head, I'm right.
Debalic wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately people will be inconvenienced whenever there's a power outage.
There's a pretty significant difference between "The traffic lights are out so my commute home took an extra half hour" and "The subway system is down, and I have no way to get home, so I'll have to fight the bums for a bench to sleep on tonight".
King Nobby wrote:
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Nah, Giuliani got rid of the bums a long time ago.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
gbaji wrote:
There's a pretty significant difference between "The traffic lights are out so my commute home took an extra half hour" and "The subway system is down, and I have no way to get home, so I'll have to fight the bums for a bench to sleep on tonight".
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
There's a pretty significant difference between "The traffic lights are out so my commute home took an extra half hour" and "The subway system is down, and I have no way to get home, so I'll have to fight the bums for a bench to sleep on tonight".
Um... Maybe you've failed to check the news, but the power is out from Southern Orange County, East to Yuma Arizona, and South into Baja California and Sonora (those are states in Mexico in case you are wondering). These are not "rolling blackouts". There is zero power to any area within about a 300 mile squared area. This is a power outage on the same scale as the one that hit the North East back then.
But hey! Continue with your whole "rural village" bit. It's fun!
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
This is a power outage on the same scale as the one that hit the North East back then.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
In 2003,
Let me know when the blackout reaches Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Mexico City. Then maybe we can start talking.
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The blackout affected an estimated 10 million people in Ontario and 45 million people in eight U.S. states.
Let me know when the blackout reaches Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Mexico City. Then maybe we can start talking.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
This is a power outage on the same scale as the one that hit the North East back then.
I'm saying that there is a similarly complete power outage in effect and with a similarly sized geographical area affected. Population is different, of course. But that doesn't change the severity at all for those who are without power, does it? This is not a power outage that affects some areas, but not all, or where residential power is out, but service power is on. This is an absolute, "no one has power unless they have their own generator" power outage.
Hence, similar to the one back in 2003. Certainly not like the "roving blackouts" you tried to dismiss this as.
King Nobby wrote:
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Of course, the other day I was driving home and a jackknifed semi in the other lanes on I-55 had traffic backed up for my entire commute. Luckily, I wasn't affected but by the time I hit my exit, the people in the other lanes were out of their cars and sitting on their hoods, they'd been stopped so long... î‚£some ten miles from where the actual accident was. Lord only knows when they got moving or how far back the stopped traffic went.
Minor half-hour inconvenience indeed.
Minor half-hour inconvenience indeed.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
But that doesn't change the severity at all for those who are without power, does it?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
gbaji wrote:
But that doesn't change the severity at all for those who are without power, does it?
Nothing in between, huh? Can we agree that a total black out affecting a several hundred mile in every direction area is more similar to the outage in 2003 than one affecting one guy out in the woods?
At the point where you can't just travel a short distance to arrive at a location where the power is on, the "scale" in terms of effect on the population living in the area is the same. It doesn't really matter how many people are in the area, or even how large the area is for that matter. At the point where you'd have to drive (with no traffic even!) for well over an hour to get out of the affected area, it kinda doesn't matter, does it?
King Nobby wrote:
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I just know that if they had subways or train systems here, I'd use them.
Yeah, comparing geographic area doesn't cut it when one of the geographic areas consists of large amounts of uninhabited desert. It's around 400 miles from Detroit to NYC and much more heavily populated than, say, Diego to, say, Nogales.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
gbaji wrote:
Can we agree that a total black out affecting a several hundred mile in every direction area is more similar to the outage in 2003 than one affecting one guy out in the woods?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Just to point out, it's being reported as 2m without power.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Just to point out, it's being reported as 2m without power.
Hell, there are boroughs with more people than that.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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