As with the concept of legalizing drugs, do you or do you not support the concept of legalizing prostitution. If yes, under what conditions?
For me, I have contradicting *Personal* beliefs. Initially, I'm against paying for anything that I can get for free. I also feel like if both partners are "equally" satisfied, why should one have to pay? Furthermore, I wouldn't want to live in a place glamorized with sex.
On the other hand, I do realize that you're paying for it regardless, with the amount of money spent on gifts, dates, etc. and the benefit of a "no strings" attached relationship.
Personal feelings aside, I would probably only support it with strict restrictions. Obviously no street walkers. I can see some pro's and con's with this.
The pros:
-If it is easily available, affordable and safe, there *might* be a decrease in STD's, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, etc.
The Cons:
- Cities maybe flooded with prostitutes trying to make an easy dollar.
Overall, I haven't done much research to see all of the pro's and con's of it and to conclude with a final opinion.
What say ye?
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Nevada already has legal brothels. Might as well open up the concept and tax the hell out of it.
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Is it misogynistic in here, or is it just you?
I've heard a lot of really stupid arguments against prostitution, but this one:
...takes the cake. Wow.
Wow.
Also, what Kavekk said. But no surprise there.
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 12:39pm by Eske
Alma wrote:
I also feel like if both partners are "equally" satisfied, why should one have to pay?
...takes the cake. Wow.
Wow.
Also, what Kavekk said. But no surprise there.
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 12:39pm by Eske
lolgaxe wrote:
Nevada already has legal brothels. Might as well open up the concept and tax the hell out of it.
That's part of what made me start thinking about this. My little research that I did do, resulted in the ranches costing up to $2,000-$3,000+ for a round with a prostitute. That's insane. I could literally buy a ticket to Germany, go to the red light district and fly back cheaper than that.
According to Craigslist, the cities are already overflooded with prostitutes. I suppose I could support a "legal with tight regulations" thing but, like pot legalization, it's something I'm not willing to put any energy into.
Frankly, even in my single days, I never imagined it "worth it" to drop a couple hundred an hour for a good looking call girl and wouldn't want the $25 hookers who wind up on the Smoking Gun to come anywhere near me. So the practical limitations stop any need for a personal moral ruling.
Frankly, even in my single days, I never imagined it "worth it" to drop a couple hundred an hour for a good looking call girl and wouldn't want the $25 hookers who wind up on the Smoking Gun to come anywhere near me. So the practical limitations stop any need for a personal moral ruling.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Honestly, what's the big deal with putting a ***** in a ******...or whatever.
Sex would be much easier to manage if it was legitimized. I can't believe they haven't yet technologized it. I'm sure there is a way to make a computerized gadget re-create all those same special feelings....and do it better, faster and more consistently than a mere human ever could.
Sex would be much easier to manage if it was legitimized. I can't believe they haven't yet technologized it. I'm sure there is a way to make a computerized gadget re-create all those same special feelings....and do it better, faster and more consistently than a mere human ever could.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
Honestly, what's the big deal with putting a ***** in a ******...or whatever.
Historically, it's a sign of low moral character (on both ends of the deal) which attracts others of low moral character in other pursuits, bringing down the neighborhood.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
According to Craigslist, the cities are already overflooded with prostitutes. I suppose I could support a "legal with tight regulations" thing but, like pot legalization, it's something I'm not willing to put any energy into.
Frankly, even in my single days, I never imagined it "worth it" to drop a couple hundred an hour for a good looking call girl and wouldn't want the $25 hookers who wind up on the Smoking Gun to come anywhere near me. So the practical limitations stop any need for a personal moral ruling.
Frankly, even in my single days, I never imagined it "worth it" to drop a couple hundred an hour for a good looking call girl and wouldn't want the $25 hookers who wind up on the Smoking Gun to come anywhere near me. So the practical limitations stop any need for a personal moral ruling.
That's true, but it's not in the open. Unless you were looking it up, you probably wouldn't even know about it.
Elinda wrote:
Honestly, what's the big deal with putting a ***** in a ******...or whatever.
Sex would be much easier to manage if it was legitimized. I can't believe they haven't yet technologized it. I'm sure there is a way to make a computerized gadget re-create all those same special feelings....and do it better, faster and more consistently than a mere human ever could.
Sex would be much easier to manage if it was legitimized. I can't believe they haven't yet technologized it. I'm sure there is a way to make a computerized gadget re-create all those same special feelings....and do it better, faster and more consistently than a mere human ever could.
You just reminded me of the contradictory I though of a while back.
It's perfectly legal to be a *****. It's illegal to be a ***** who charges for their services. It's legal to be a ***** who charges for their service if it's for a video or magazine.
I'm sure that I'm missing something, but that just seems jacked up.
If Walmart could sell sex, there really would be no reason for anyone to ever go anywhere else...ever.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I've seen pictures of people from Walmart. They couldn't sell that.
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Alma wrote:
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The Dutch system has shown that it's generally better for everyone involved. Prohibition never works, with anything.
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 1:01pm by zukunftsangst
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 1:01pm by zukunftsangst
Legal prostitution is a lot better than illegal prostitution and you're going to have prostitution anyway.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Legal prostitution is a lot better than illegal prostitution and you're going to have prostitution anyway.
They're going to do it anyway, so why make it illegal?
Sure, that's a winner. I mean, by extension, people are going to drive drunk anyway, so why make it illegal? People have been killing each other since before we could make tools. Why is that illegal? Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not, why not just go along with it and get yours?
Shut the f'uck up and let people with an ounce of common sense have a go.
Obvious sexist comments in the OP aside:
I figure if it were legal, you'd have less problems with pimps beating women sensless to get their trick money.
George Carlin wrote:
I don’t understand why prostitution is illegal. Selling is legal, fucking is legal. So, why isn’t it legal to sell fucking? Why should it be illegal to sell something that’s legal to give away? I can’t follow the logic. Of all the things you can to do a person, giving them an ****** is hardly the worst. In the army they give you a medal for killing people; in civilian life you go to jail for giving them orgasms. Am I missing something?
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I figure if it were legal, you'd have less problems with pimps beating women sensless to get their trick money.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not
Wrong. By definition, they can only fuck me when I don't want them too. Unless you're using some Gbaji definition of rape.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not
Wrong. By definition, they can only fuck me when I don't want them too. Unless you're using some Gbaji definition of rape.
Surely they can **** you anytime, but only rape you when you're unwilling? I mean, if they've alrready raped soemone, they're still a rapist even when they're not raping at that precise moment in time.
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not
Wrong. By definition, they can only fuck me when I don't want them too. Unless you're using some Gbaji definition of rape.
Rape is only rape if you say no. You can say no and still want them to f'uck you.
Kavekk wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not
Wrong. By definition, they can only fuck me when I don't want them too. Unless you're using some Gbaji definition of rape.
Surely they can @#%^ you anytime, but only rape you when you're unwilling? I mean, if they've alrready raped soemone, they're still a rapist even when they're not raping at that precise moment in time.
Hurry, say something dumb so I can disagree with you again.
MoebiusLord wrote:
You can say no and still want them to f'uck you.
I'm driving in my car, I turn on the radio
I'm pullin' you closer, you just say no
You say you don't like it, but I know you're a liar
'Cause when we kiss... fire.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
MoebiusLord wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Legal prostitution is a lot better than illegal prostitution and you're going to have prostitution anyway.
They're going to do it anyway, so why make it illegal?
Sure, that's a winner. I mean, by extension, people are going to drive drunk anyway, so why make it illegal? People have been killing each other since before we could make tools. Why is that illegal? Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not, why not just go along with it and get yours?
Shut the f'uck up and let people with an ounce of common sense have a go.
Come on now Mr Wilson. You know these aren't equitable. Regulating prostitution helps prevent the spread of disease and, potentially, curb human trafficking and isn't dissimilar to banning drunk driving. They're both matters of harm reduction.
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 1:54pm by zukunftsangst
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Obvious sexist comments in the OP aside:
Seriously? WTF? I actually altered words to not "offend" you and you still claim it was sexist? How? Where were you when people were supporting the concept of women being naturally born ugly due to mutations?! I didn't see you mention anything about sexism or disrespect to women.
zukunftsangst wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Legal prostitution is a lot better than illegal prostitution and you're going to have prostitution anyway.
They're going to do it anyway, so why make it illegal?
Sure, that's a winner. I mean, by extension, people are going to drive drunk anyway, so why make it illegal? People have been killing each other since before we could make tools. Why is that illegal? Rapists are going to f'uck you whether you want them to or not, why not just go along with it and get yours?
Shut the f'uck up and let people with an ounce of common sense have a go.
Come on now Mr Wilson. You know these aren't equitable. Regulating prostitution helps prevent the spread of disease and, potentially, curb human trafficking and isn't dissimilar to banning drunk driving. They're both matters of harm reduction.
Edited, Aug 1st 2011 1:54pm by zukunftsangst
Not equitable? Lol, not even relevant. Drinking IS legal. Fucking for pay is not.
If prostitution was legalized however, I'm sure there'd be a regulation against ******** and driving. I'm also guessing the purchased activity would be restricted to those over the age of consent.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Obvious sexist comments in the OP aside:
Seriously? WTF? I actually altered words to not "offend" you and you still claim it was sexist? How? Where were you when people were supporting the concept of women being naturally born ugly due to mutations?! I didn't see you mention anything about sexism or disrespect to women.
Almalieque wrote:
On the other hand, I do realize that you're paying for it regardless...
And it gets better from there. And it's not like I'm the only one who picked up on it...
If you did alter it, then you did a **** poor job of it.
Honestly, I'm not in the least surprised that most chicks would rather "just be friends" with you.
Driving intoxicated is illegal. It's a consensual activity. No one is directly harmed by the act of a consenting adult getting in to his car while intoxicated and driving away. It is an act criminalized by the nanny state to "make us safer". It is a proven fact that criminalization does not eliminate the activity. The rationale used by Aethion (or however the f'uck you spell his stupid-assed name) would seem to indicate it is in favor of decriminalizing that as well.
Rape is illegal. It fundamentally deprives an individual of their rights. While I would never suggest that it is criminalized in error, by Aethion's rationale people are going to do it anyway, so why not just spread 'em wide and get what you can out of the experience?
Rape is illegal. It fundamentally deprives an individual of their rights. While I would never suggest that it is criminalized in error, by Aethion's rationale people are going to do it anyway, so why not just spread 'em wide and get what you can out of the experience?
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