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#127 Aug 08 2011 at 11:16 PM Rating: Good

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The reality is that the Democrats realized that they had a narrow window of time in which to pass the social legislation they wanted and made a decision to ignore the fact that the US was in the midst of an economic recession and passed them anyway. It was a timing issue. They knew there would be negative economic effects arising from those social agenda items. If the economy had been in good shape at the time, perhaps they could have managed these things without creating the disaster we're in right now. But it wasn't in good shape.

So what are you trying to say? Bush an Co. ****** up the country then gave the keys to a black man? Sounds about par for the 400 year old course.

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#128 Aug 09 2011 at 12:35 AM Rating: Default

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rdmcandie wrote:

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The reality is that the Democrats realized that they had a narrow window of time in which to pass the social legislation they wanted and made a decision to ignore the fact that the US was in the midst of an economic recession and passed them anyway. It was a timing issue. They knew there would be negative economic effects arising from those social agenda items. If the economy had been in good shape at the time, perhaps they could have managed these things without creating the disaster we're in right now. But it wasn't in good shape.

So what are you trying to say? Bush an Co. @#%^ed up the country then gave the keys to a black man? Sounds about par for the 400 year old course.

Where exactly do you get this '400' figure from?

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#129 Aug 09 2011 at 4:03 AM Rating: Excellent

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CHP? Do tell.

CHP stands for COmbined Heat and Power. It's also sometimes called DE or Decentralised Energy. Normal power stations produce HUGE amounts of heat, which they then release into the atmosphere as waste. They then carry the electricity they generate thousands of miles between thousands of houses, losing 70% of the electricity along the wires.

A CHP station is a small two story building, or a small section in an office tower, that generates power for no more than 250-500 buildings. It loses barely any of the electricity to wire transportation, and captures all the heat it generates, piping the heat to supply hot water and heating to the same 250-500 buildings. A tri-stage CHP can also produce cold Air-conditioning at a fraction of the usual energy cost.

Any competent engineer can design one with off the shelf products. Natural Gas is a good base fuel source, but newer technologies like solar or bio-reactors can be added in the mix. London is planning to retro-fit so that CHPs are supplying 25% of London's energy by 2025 and 50% by 2050.

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#130 Aug 09 2011 at 4:13 AM Rating: Good

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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:

I don't know how directly it relates to housing, but manufactured goods accounts for about 30% of the cost of building a new hotel.

The only expertise I have in building is articles from the VNPA and watching Grand Designs episodes. I don't know what is usually the case. But in many of the Grand Designs housing projects when the owners are making an effort to give their house good eco credentials, or a small environmental footprint, they often have to make a conscious decision to source some, or much, of the building materials from local products. Imported products may be more usual, much cheaper, more obvious, what builders are used to working with, or what have you, but they go with the local product so that the transportation fuel usage is lower.

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#131 Aug 09 2011 at 4:57 AM Rating: Good

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LEEDs is a completely different thing.

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#132 Aug 09 2011 at 6:35 AM Rating: Excellent

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You guys use LEED up there in Canadaland?

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#133 Aug 09 2011 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent

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Jophiel wrote:

It's ludicrous that people would refuse to believe this when we have the concrete evidence of an economy that was worse off post-bubble than it was in the previous recession -- what was built up in the meantime to absorb some of the crash? What sectors remained firm because they weren't reliant upon the bubble? Any? Any at all? What true growth was there?

The answer is obvious but... hey. Gotta keep those wagons circled.

The war machine?

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#134 Aug 09 2011 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good

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Jophiel wrote:

You guys use LEED up there in Canadaland?

Yes, we actually have some of the highest rated LEED buildings in the world right here where I live:

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First they broke ground and now they've broken records.

Dockside Green's first residential phase, Synergy, was yesterday certified as built to LEED (leadership in energy and environmental design) Platinum standards, and in hitting that mark, the building set a record for the highest score ever given at that level.

"We set a world record in terms of the amount of points under the LEED system; it's the highest-rated building ever done globally," said Joe Van Belleghem of Windmill West, owner and partner in the mixed-used development.

Synergy, the first phase of the development, which includes 95 homes in two condo buildings, townhomes and commercial space, achieved 63 points out of a possible 70.

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/business/story.html?id=76dcf18f-fa2f-46c9-9e9c-a6183e18455c

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#135 Aug 09 2011 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good

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Jophiel wrote:

You guys use LEED up there in Canadaland?

We steal every "good" idea you guys come up with, especially when the government can pass the expenses on to others.

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