lolgaxe wrote:
The greater point is apparently Allegory needs $50.
It's probably because he has Huntingtons. I'll set up the PayPal account...
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It's probably because he has Huntingtons. I'll set up the PayPal account...
I should have used protection with Mindel :(
Allegory wrote:
I should have used protection with Mindel :(
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varusword75 wrote:
And I steadfastly maintain that outside US borders the moderate muslims are a very small minority.
Did your okra whisper this secret to you? (steadfast or not it's not reality)
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Gumbo Galahad wrote:
mobs of blacks are doing their flash mob thing over here.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
You and your liberal buddies keep saying this guy is a christian. Keep saying the lie enough and maybe you'll get enough people to actually believe it.
Keep denying the truth long enough and maybe you'll convince yourself. You won't convince anyone else but you'll feel better about it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Allegory wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I get sucked into a debate I wasn't invested in that much to begin with. 
If you don't feel like responding to me that's fine. I'll understand you simply find this boring and would not consider you to be evading at all.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
With the above said, if you had the option to walk away completely, then you're at fault for pushing the button, flipping the coin, or rolling the dice, no matter how good the odds are that someone won't die. It's your fault that person died.
Just to make sure I am understanding you correctly
-"Am I responsible for that death only if it lands on heads, or do I bear a responsibility for even taking the risk and flipping the coin?"
-You would say making the gamble (regardless of the odds) makes you responsible.
-"Is there a difference between the two responsibilities of pressing a button that will 100% kill and having a 50% chance to kill? "
-You would say that outright murdering someone makes you equally responsible to risking their life (regardless of the odds).
That seems odd to me, because every second you are knowingly gambling with the lives of others (though it is usually an extremely safe gamble, like 1 in 1 trillion). Driving to work risks the lives of everyone on the road. Feeding your child risks her catching a food-born illness. Money you spend could in some small way be funding terrorism.
These are all very safe gambles, but they are all gambles. Everything we do has an incredibly small chance to harm someone, and we know this, but since it's such a safe risk we choose to make the gamble anyway. If risking lives to any degree gives us responsibility and equal responsibility to outright murder, then we are all murderers.
Edited, Jul 25th 2011 6:06pm by Allegory
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
Elinda,
Yes it is. Why do you think it isn't? Do you even know what's going on in Egypt, or the rest of the ME for that matter?
Just because you imagine most of the muslims over there really like americans, or westerners, doesn't make it so. Go try and start a christian church in any country that's ruled by muslims and see how far you get.
Stupid *****.
Yes it is. Why do you think it isn't? Do you even know what's going on in Egypt, or the rest of the ME for that matter?
Just because you imagine most of the muslims over there really like americans, or westerners, doesn't make it so. Go try and start a christian church in any country that's ruled by muslims and see how far you get.
Stupid *****.
You're looking pretty dam ugly today.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
I caught the guy filling in for Savage last night
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
The greater point is apparently Allegory needs $50.
It's probably because he has Huntingtons. I'll set up the PayPal account...
Allegory wrote:
I should have used protection with Mindel :(
I was just talking about this with Kavekk last night.
...Just as planned.
Just as Planned.
Elinda wrote:
Allegory wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I get sucked into a debate I wasn't invested in that much to begin with.
If you don't feel like responding to me that's fine. I'll understand you simply find this boring and would not consider you to be evading at all.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
With the above said, if you had the option to walk away completely, then you're at fault for pushing the button, flipping the coin, or rolling the dice, no matter how good the odds are that someone won't die. It's your fault that person died.
Just to make sure I am understanding you correctly
-"Am I responsible for that death only if it lands on heads, or do I bear a responsibility for even taking the risk and flipping the coin?"
-You would say making the gamble (regardless of the odds) makes you responsible.
-"Is there a difference between the two responsibilities of pressing a button that will 100% kill and having a 50% chance to kill? "
-You would say that outright murdering someone makes you equally responsible to risking their life (regardless of the odds).
That seems odd to me, because every second you are knowingly gambling with the lives of others (though it is usually an extremely safe gamble, like 1 in 1 trillion). Driving to work risks the lives of everyone on the road. Feeding your child risks her catching a food-born illness. Money you spend could in some small way be funding terrorism.
These are all very safe gambles, but they are all gambles. Everything we do has an incredibly small chance to harm someone, and we know this, but since it's such a safe risk we choose to make the gamble anyway. If risking lives to any degree gives us responsibility and equal responsibility to outright murder, then we are all murderers.
Edited, Jul 25th 2011 6:06pm by Allegory
Yay, someone else that likes appropriate risk valuation.
And gets that the expected value of the money you get from the trillion sided die could pay for quite a few people to not be dead.
Just as Planned.
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
I caught the guy filling in for Savage last night
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
Trouble for democrats is this happened way the h*ll over there while mobs of blacks are doing their flash mob thing over here.
How many dozens of people have these black "flash mobs" killed?
Fun fact: Serial killers and mass murderers are by a huge margin more white than black. Blacks may occasionally kill someone in a fit of rage but it's the whiteys that spend years planning and executing attacks of large and dramatic scale.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
varusword75 wrote:
Elinda,
Yes it is. Why do you think it isn't? Do you even know what's going on in Egypt, or the rest of the ME for that matter?
Just because you imagine most of the muslims over there really like americans, or westerners, doesn't make it so. Go try and start a christian church in any country that's ruled by muslims and see how far you get.
Yes it is. Why do you think it isn't? Do you even know what's going on in Egypt, or the rest of the ME for that matter?
Just because you imagine most of the muslims over there really like americans, or westerners, doesn't make it so. Go try and start a christian church in any country that's ruled by muslims and see how far you get.
They may not cherish us over there, but they don't particularly dislike us either. For the most part they really couldn't care about us one way or another, much the same way that most of us have no vested interest in the population at large in Egypt. Sure, there are radicals over there who despise the decadence and corruption of the West, just as there are people here like you who hate the Muslim world with the burning passion of the Sahara.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
So wrong you had to say it twice?
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Someone has to convince himself, it might as well be him.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Quote:
Fun fact: Serial killers and mass murderers are by a huge margin more white than black. Blacks may occasionally kill someone in a fit of rage but it's the whiteys that spend years planning and executing attacks of large and dramatic scale.
Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population .
That's from the FBI ( source: http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder)
Also, from lolwiki: Anthony Walsh writes, "While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population" .
Never regret.To regret is to assume.
nonwto wrote:
Debalic wrote:
[quote=varusword75]Fun fact: Serial killers and mass murderers are by a huge margin more white than black.
Citation needed.
A study done by one:
Dr. Mike Aamodt
Department of Psychology
Radford University
http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/Student%20Notes%20-%20Serial%20Killers.pdf
68% white
25% black
Or, if you prefer, the FBI:
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder
"The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population."
Okay, my "huge margin" statement may have been a little bit of exaggeration, but we're looking at numbers more than twice that of the rest of the demographics combined. Mind you, I'm making this argument even after living through a local black serial killer episode fifteen years ago.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
@ Debalic.
I do see your point though. It does seem White guys are far more interested in killing a bunch of folks, or ******** them out of their retirement fund than simply stealing your wallet or knocking over a liquor store.
I do see your point though. It does seem White guys are far more interested in killing a bunch of folks, or ******** them out of their retirement fund than simply stealing your wallet or knocking over a liquor store.
Never regret.To regret is to assume.
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