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#1 Jul 22 2011 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Celebrities with a penchant for weird baby names (looking at you, David and Victoria Beckham) should avoid having kids in New Zealand.

The country’s Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages has been cracking down on parents who get too creative when naming their kids, Australia’s Herald Sun reports.

The list of weird names for kids that are banned by New Zealand’s names registrar has grown to include Lucifer, Duke, Messiah and 89.
Also not approved: Bishop, Baron, General, Judge, King, Knight and Mr., names that were all said to be too similar to titles.

The letters, C, D, I and T were also rejected as first names, the Herald Sun says.

As well, the agency has refused to allow names involving asterisks, commas, periods and other punctuation marks.

And three different sets of Kiwi parents wanted to name their children Lucifer, only to have the name choice nixed.

In 2008, New Zealand’s names registrar drew international attention when it approved such non-traditional names as Benson and Hedges for a set of twins, as well as the boys names of Violence and Number 16 Bus Shelter.

But New Zealand isn’t the only country to ban wacky names for kids, the Toronto Globe and Mail reports.

In Sweden, name choices are subject to a naming law. While Lego and Google have been approved as names for children, Superman, Metallica and Elvis, and the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin, were not approved.

In 2007, a judge in the Dominican Republic submitted a proposal to ban names that are either confusing or gave no indication of gender, such as the names Qeurida Pina (Dear Pineapple) and Tonton Ruiz (Dummy Ruiz), according to the Globe and Mail.
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Number 16 Bus Shelter is an amazing name.
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#3 Jul 22 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Some of the title-names seem kind of silly to ban. I mean, do actual Barons even exist anymore? And if they do, does anyone give a damn?

I actually think King is an awesome name, but I may be biased due to him being my favorite Tekken character (<3 Argentina Backbreaker).

I remember hearing about the banning of "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116". The judge ruled that it would be too arduous for the child to write his own name, which sounds like fine logic to me. The kid would probably have failed tests because he spent the entire exam allotment filling out the name letter bubbles on the Scantron. Smiley: lol

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#4 Jul 22 2011 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Some of the title-names seem kind of silly to ban. I mean, do actual Barons even exist anymore? And if they do, does anyone give a damn?


I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.

The naming of a kid is weird. I mean, on the one hand, that's my kid. I want to name it "Number 16 Bus Shelter" and call her Albus as a nickname, who is the government to tell me I can't? But at the same time, is it fair to subject a kid to that and have them go through the expense of changing their name later in life because their parents were batshit insane?

Number 16 Bus Shelter actually sounds like a boys name...

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 10:33am by Belkira
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#6 Jul 22 2011 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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Celebrities with a penchant for weird baby names (looking at you, David and Victoria Beckham) should avoid having kids in New Zealand.

I think non-celebrities name their kids weird stuff too.

I can see not allowing a one-letter name simply because it'll muck up data-base formatting, but beyond maintenance and logistical issues, I think naming a child is a pretty basic right.

Names that are titles shouldn't be a problem for modern day technology to grapple with and disallowing Lucifer is simply discriminatory. They're just seven letters arranged just so after-all. Copy-righted names like Superman could pose legal problems.

Wonder what the US rules of naming are. Can you name a kid a swear word?
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Names rejected by the office include Fish and Chips, Yeah Detroit, Stallion, Twisty Poi, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit.


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I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.


You have angered Baron Davis.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 11:51am by Eske
#8 Jul 22 2011 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.


You have angered Baron Davis.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 11:51am by Eske



Yeah, Baron isn't so bad.
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I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.


You have angered Baron Davis.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 11:51am by Eske



Yeah, Baron isn't so bad.


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I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.


You have angered Baron Davis.
What about Judge Reinhold? Not that the man looks like he could get angry.


Edit: Seems he changed his name to Judge, so that may or may not affect things.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 10:02am by Poldaran
#11 Jul 22 2011 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
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I actually think Bishop is a fine name. Baron, General, Judge, and Mr. are just plain odd, though.


You have angered Baron Davis.
What about Judge Reinhold? Not that the man looks like he could get angry.


Edit: Seems he changed his name to Judge, so that may or may not affect things.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 10:00am by Poldaran


That guy has an actual name? I thought he was called "That guy from Beverly Hills Cop." Which probably wouldn't fly in New Zealand, either.



...and would some seriously improbably guesswork by his parents.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2011 12:03pm by Eske
#12 Jul 22 2011 at 11:03 AM Rating: Good
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I'll always remember him as "The Close-Talker" from Seinfeld.
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Sounds like they fail to recognize, in a antho-linguistic sense , how common names were created in the first place.

It was people naming their kids after **** they liked, things they did and after various religious cultist.

Just because bus driver wasn't and ancient profession but baker, smith and were doesn't mean they should be valid and the more modern appropriates not. The same with naming someone after Muhammed but Messiah being banned.

It's just old people being old because they are old.
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I always think of him as "Brad" from Fast Times, and then I think of Phoebe Cates.
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#15 Jul 22 2011 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Number 16 Bus Shelter is cutesy... but I don't think a kid really wants to have to think about where and what his parents were doing to get him conceived every time he writes his name.
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Shouldn't Paulsol be popping on right about now, to rail against America?
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#17 Jul 30 2011 at 2:52 AM Rating: Decent
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the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin


I was going to call mt 1st born, k™f3d£´ƒ©, pronounced Kaiwaiahao. This makes me sad.
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Any ruling on Fenchurch?
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About ten years ago I had a student who wanted to know my first name. I told her it was "Sir."

She didn't quite catch on, and henceforth addressed me as a knight.

I wouldn't be totally opposed to banning Jr.'s and whatnot, wherein the child's first name will be identical to the parent. That's only because it's been nothing but a pain in my ***... invariably you have a nickname forced upon you to avoid confusion in the family, which creates confusion where your legal name is used, especially when you don't have a good "nickname" name and they have to call you something unintuitive.
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I love Louis Smiley: lol
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His mother is a really nice person, very different from Louis.
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Sounds like they fail to recognize, in a antho-linguistic sense , how common names were created in the first place.

It was people naming their kids after sh*t they liked, things they did and after various religious cultist.

Just because bus driver wasn't and ancient profession but baker, smith and were doesn't mean they should be valid and the more modern appropriates not. The same with naming someone after Muhammed but Messiah being banned.

It's just old people being old because they are old.


I agree. Driver actually works well as a first or last name. Busdriver could work as a last name fine. Noone really changes their last names based on profession anymore though.

The title names sound fine to me as well, especially Bishop. It makes me think of Bishop from the Alien movies before I think of a religious leader.

Jr. names irritate me because they just come off as uncreative and egotistical on the part of the (usually father) parents. Some like it though. My friend is the 3rd, but he never uses the III on the end of his name.
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I agree. Driver actually works well as a first or last name.


My co-worker's husband is named Driver.

They named their dog Putter.
#25 Aug 03 2011 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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I think that King (Basil actually means king) is fine, as is Bishop ... and it is ludicrous to ban lucifer - (it means "light bearer").

I think some restrictions are okay... like "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116" is just trolling, but anything semi-reasonable should be allowed.

Most names mean something like sheep (agnes), king (basil), maiden (jennifer), field (leigh)... etc. I mean it is much worse to name a kid something like Tristan (sad) in my mind than Soldier or Sir

Edited, Aug 3rd 2011 4:31pm by Olorinus
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...the law did not allow names that would cause offence to a reasonable person, that are more than 100 characters or that include titles, military ranks, punctuation or numerals.


So no chance of a Major Major Major Major?
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