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#1 Jul 21 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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Reports have come out that Rep. Michelle Bachmann, presidential candidate, suffers from severe migraine headaches. Former aides have said she is incapacitated by the attacks when they occur. There are reports of her missing Congressional votes due to them including missing eight votes in July 2010 when she was out for a week. Her own statement was that it took her four days to recover.

Her campaign says the reports are overblown. A statement she requested from the Congressional physician says that she is in "overall good general health". Her brother and son, both doctors (but neither is her doctor) have said she's fine and controls her attacks via medication and understanding the triggers. She has stopped short of releasing full medical records which may spell out times she's been hospitalized/treated or medications she's on for treatment.

Should Rep. Bachmann release her full records?
Absolutely. Can't have her in the "quiet room" when the Islamofascist nukes are launched:9 (22.5%)
Probably, if only to set the issue to rest regardless of its importance:7 (17.5%)
No, as long as her physicians can vouch for her:1 (2.5%)
No, I don't think it's a big deal regardless:7 (17.5%)
No, headaches or not, her medical records are her business:16 (40.0%)
Total:40
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#2 Jul 21 2011 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Reports have come out that Rep. Michelle Bachmann, presidential candidate, suffers from severe migraine headaches. Former aides have said she is incapacitated by the attacks when they occur. There are reports of her missing Congressional votes due to them including missing eight votes in July 2010 when she was out for a week. Her own statement was that it took her four days to recover.

Her campaign says the reports are overblown. A statement she requested from the Congressional physician says that she is in "overall good general health". Her brother and son, both doctors (but neither is her doctor) have said she's fine and controls her attacks via medication and understanding the triggers. She has stopped short of releasing full medical records which may spell out times she's been hospitalized/treated or medications she's on for treatment.

Poll Removed: No more than one per thread, please!

You forgot the option "Sure, as soon as the President releases his school records."
#3 Jul 21 2011 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, someone who's prone to Stress Headaches running this mess of a country. Great idea.
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#4 Jul 21 2011 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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If she's generally healthy enough to rule, it's fine. FDR couldn't stand, Harrison died of pneumonia because he was a putz (and was incredibly old), and Reagan was up there in age as well. As long as they are competent and can win, that's fine.

Besides, who cares if she's knocked out for a few days? Isn't that what the VP is for?
#5 Jul 21 2011 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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MoebiusLord wrote:
You forgot the option "Sure, as soon as the President releases his school records."

Ah, the whiny ***** option. I forgot that Varus might want to vote.
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#7 Jul 21 2011 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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"No, and I don't think it's a big deal regardless."

I just can't envision this being an issue, were she to win.
#8 Jul 21 2011 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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I suppose it's better than actually talking about Obama's continued failure on the economic front.
Don't feel you're up to the task anymore?
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#9 Jul 21 2011 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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MoebiusLord wrote:
You forgot the option "Sure, as soon as the President releases his school records."

Ah, the whiny ***** option. I forgot that Varus might want to vote.

No, you covered that with the poll. Since it's up, it might as well be comprehensive.
#10 Jul 21 2011 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
You expect anyone to care about her having headaches

Me? Beats me. Hence the poll and thread topic.

Karl Rove is among those saying she needs to release her records to put this to rest so I suppose he thinks someone might care.
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#11 Jul 21 2011 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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Karl Rove is expressing an opinion so he can continue to appear relevant to a Republican base that no longer needs his input.

Hey, at least he's not running for President, like Gingrich.
#12 Jul 21 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Talk to Fox and the WSJ for thinking he's worth an eternal platform to speak to the Republican base from Smiley: smile
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#13 Jul 21 2011 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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I think this is a pretty big load of bull, and I may be biased as a lifetime migraine sufferer. On the one hand, presidential candidates are expected to give up any privacy they might have, but I believe her when she says she understands her triggers and controls them with medication. When I was younger, I'd have as many as several migraines a week, lasting for days. Now that I've dealt with them for 20+ years, I understand what sets them off, and I get 1-2 a month that are usually related to my menstrual cycle, but they don't knock me on my ***. I've learned to live without expensive, prescription migraine medication, but if I had a constant supply of them my migraine frequency would probably be almost nothing.

I guess I can understand how the frequency, etc, can give us more clues. But, as a migraine sufferer, I trust that she has learned how to deal with them over time, and that if they were that frequent and debilitating I can't imagine her really wanting to take on the responsibility of President.

If she were to say, have 2 less golf-outings a month than the average president of recent has participated in, it would probably be about the same amount of downtime her migraines cause her. Also, not all migraines are purely stress induced - I get mine from not eating, from caffeine withdrawal, etc. Pretty controllable stimuli.
#14 Jul 21 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think this is a pretty big load of bull,
Why focus on real issues and the politico's philosophies and such when we can spend years going after the real deal issues, like birth certificates, military records, and possible future health issues? That's what our system of government really is about.
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#15 Jul 21 2011 at 11:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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No. Like Locke says, she's physically capable. A week+ off from work for illness isn't a deal.

Of course, maybe if the media keeps stressing her, she'll go for the ultimate aneurysm.

Maybe she's a werewolf.
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#16 Jul 21 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the record, I believe she should just to get it over with and we don't have to deal with another "Birth Certificategate."
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#17 Jul 21 2011 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
Smiley: tinfoilhat If she won't release her medical records, then what's on them that might incriminate her? I mean, maybe she's got AIDS or something and she doesn't want people to see it!! She could give AIDS to the whole country! Maybe she's really black and she doesn't want people to know! Maybe she's really a man! Smiley: tinfoilhat

I voted for the last option. That's her business. If I don't have to show my medical records to get a job, why should she?
#18 Jul 21 2011 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
If she's generally healthy enough to rule...

The word you're looking for is "govern." We got rid of the monarchy a few centuries ago.
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#19 Jul 21 2011 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe he meant it in a "Bachmann RULEZ!!" sort of way.
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#20 Jul 21 2011 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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I chose the last option because the poll seemed to be a list of scalar choices, but it's not quite accurate about what I think.

She has zero obligation to release those records. Not so much because she has any right to privacy, but because she has the same right to privacy as anyone else. There is no reason to make her an exception. I'm not greatly opposed to greater transparency of medical information, but if required it should be implemented universally and not arbitrarily.
#21 Jul 21 2011 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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Are the conservatives so seriously lacking in intellectually competent women that we should have to honestly consider her candidacy? Bachmann is maybe a hair smarter than Palin but at least twice as crazy.
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Allegory wrote:
Not so much because she has any right to privacy, but because she has the same right to privacy as anyone else. There is no reason to make her an exception. I'm not greatly opposed to greater transparency of medical information, but if required it should be implemented universally and not arbitrarily.

Well, in response to you and Belkira, I think the immediate answer is the we're not all going for the same job. Certainly there ARE jobs where the real risk of a debilitating headache may make you a non-candidate. So then the question is whether you think the presidency is such a job and whether or not you think it's important enough that she address the issue now.

I personally went for option #2 in that I don't think anyone has a real right to them but she may as well get them out of the way and move on to bigger things. But if she decided that her own rights to privacy trumped worrying about what someone else thought, she's completely entitled to that path instead.
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#23 Jul 21 2011 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Well, in response to you and Belkira, I think the immediate answer is the we're not all going for the same job. Certainly there ARE jobs where the real risk of a debilitating headache may make you a non-candidate. So then the question is whether you think the presidency is such a job and whether or not you think it's important enough that she address the issue now.


I feel like, usually, questions about health are not entirely legal unless you've been formally offered the job. I could be wrong.
#24 Jul 21 2011 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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In the case of the presidency, it's a little late to wait until after the "job offer" to have an issue with it.
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#25 Jul 21 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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In the case of the presidency, it's a little late to wait until after the "job offer" to have an issue with it.



I suppose she could be impeached if she can't perform the duties. Or, actually, I guess if she medically could not perform her official duties, the VP would get the job.

Yeah, regardless, I've not heard of a presidential candidate asked to release medical records before. Has it happened before? (Excepting Obama's birth certificate, of course...)
#26 Jul 21 2011 at 3:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I voted yes. Not because I care about the migraines, but because I want to know how many abortions she's had.
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