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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
Probably because religious fundamentalists primary concern is protecting all life.
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-Muslims are bad
Worse than *****; just without the hardware.
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Conservatives are good
The conservative ideology is one that promotes freedom and individuality while the liberal ideal is one that promotes collectivity and forced sacrifice by and for the state.
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The Constitution is good
Yeah we generally like this; and don't forget the federalist papers.
What I read from this: "Conservatives like the Constitution when it supports what they believe, and dislike it when it doesn't." I feel the Constitution is made to be a sort of second Bible for many; but unlike the Bible, there is an end-all interpreter in the SCotUS. Thank goodness! Quote:
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they make the rules to support their groups and cut out the ones they don't like.
lmao...yeah
Edited, Jun 28th 2011 9:53am by LockeColeMA
LockeColeMA wrote:
Do you... actually know any conservatives? Because the entire thing is, this is what I see conservatives do all the time, ie:
-Muslims are bad
-Christians are good
-Conservatives are good
-Liberals are bad. Also, they are socialists, *****, anarchists, communists, fascists, puppets of Soros, and paedophiles.
-Bachmann and Palin are good
-Obama is "bad" and by "bad" I mean pretty much the most vile things you can say about a person. His name is also Barry Soetoro. And he's a Kenyan.
-The Constitution is good
-Judicial review is bad
Etc, etc...
-Muslims are bad
-Christians are good
-Conservatives are good
-Liberals are bad. Also, they are socialists, *****, anarchists, communists, fascists, puppets of Soros, and paedophiles.
-Bachmann and Palin are good
-Obama is "bad" and by "bad" I mean pretty much the most vile things you can say about a person. His name is also Barry Soetoro. And he's a Kenyan.
-The Constitution is good
-Judicial review is bad
Etc, etc...
So, you don't actually know any Conservatives either? Because that's not Conservatism you're depicting there, that's the stupid ramblings of ideologues. A Conservative would tell you:
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
MoebiusLord wrote:
So, you don't actually know any Conservatives either? Because that's not Conservatism you're depicting there, that's the stupid ramblings of ideologues. A Conservative would tell you:
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
Unfortunately it seems the "ideologues" are the majority, or at least the ones who speak out the most and the loudest (not just in media, but in my area). And as I stated, I feel most of the polarizing views are spoken out of ignorance, or frustration. It just so happens that, out of the people I know and interact with, the majority of the most polarized portion are conservatives with little education. But as said, it's a biased example simply due to who I see and talk to normally.
varusword75 wrote:
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spread your religion, against the will of others if necessary
This is the lie you, and your liberals buddies, spread. Muslims do this Christians don't. Not saying Christians havn't in the past; just not today. But hey, just like the liberal media you so adore, if you say it enough maybe enough people will start to believe it which allows you to effectively promote your anti judeo-christian value system.
I am curious how you think Christians are forcing their religion on others. Are our troops shoving the natives in the ME into baptist churches at the point of their gun? I don't remember reading about that anywhere.
I actually already provided you with several examples. I'm not the one who literally says the government is holding a gun to me
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I'm not going to even begin to talk with you about the constitution. It's obvious you really don't care what it says; only whether or not you can use it to promote your own social agenda which is based in jealousy and hate.
LockeColeMA wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
So, you don't actually know any Conservatives either? Because that's not Conservatism you're depicting there, that's the stupid ramblings of ideologues. A Conservative would tell you:
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
Unfortunately it seems the "ideologues" are the majority, or at least the ones who speak out the most and the loudest (not just in media, but in my area). And as I stated, I feel most of the polarizing views are spoken out of ignorance, or frustration. It just so happens that, out of the people I know and interact with, the majority of the most polarized portion are conservatives with little education. But as said, it's a biased example simply due to who I see and talk to normally.
But it's evident in "educated" people, as well. You call them Conservatives, when, clearly, they are not. They're morons. But you associate their views and their idiocy with Conservatism, and that's not fair or accurate. No more fair or accurate than suggesting that all liberals are Marxist Fascists masquerading as compassionate bleeding hearts.
MoebiusLord wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
So, you don't actually know any Conservatives either? Because that's not Conservatism you're depicting there, that's the stupid ramblings of ideologues. A Conservative would tell you:
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
- Islam is being corrupted to radicalize impoverished people.
- Christianity tracks better than a lot of other religions with Western values.
- Liberalism will lead to the downfall of America.
- Bachmann and Palin are out there saying what needs to be said (one to sell herself, one to run for President).
- Barack Obama's political ideology is not good for America.
- The United States Constitution is the Gold Standard.
- Legislating from the bench is bad, but difficult to curb given our current system.
Unfortunately it seems the "ideologues" are the majority, or at least the ones who speak out the most and the loudest (not just in media, but in my area). And as I stated, I feel most of the polarizing views are spoken out of ignorance, or frustration. It just so happens that, out of the people I know and interact with, the majority of the most polarized portion are conservatives with little education. But as said, it's a biased example simply due to who I see and talk to normally.
But it's evident in "educated" people, as well. You call them Conservatives, when, clearly, they are not. They're morons. But you associate their views and their idiocy with Conservatism, and that's not fair or accurate. No more fair or accurate than suggesting that all liberals are Marxist Fascists masquerading as compassionate bleeding hearts.
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
And you're hanging out with them? Of course when i'm looking for a good b-ball game I can be found at college park with all the brothers; what's your excuse?
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majority of the most polarized portion are conservatives with little education
And you're hanging out with them? Of course when i'm looking for a good b-ball game I can be found at college park with all the brothers; what's your excuse?
Now now Locke, be sensible. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
LockeColeMA wrote:
Technically, they call themselves conservatives.
Fair enough, but as I already said, they're morons.
MoebiusLord wrote:
But you associate their views and their idiocy with Conservatism, and that's not fair or accurate.
It's not as though there's a lot of push-back going on. Either against "conservative" blow-hard media jockeys, firebrand politicans or rank & file idiots like Gbaji carrying Varus's water daily.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
But you associate their views and their idiocy with Conservatism, and that's not fair or accurate.
It's not as though there's a lot of push-back going on. Either against "conservative" blow-hard media jockeys, firebrand politicans or rank & file idiots like Gbaji carrying Varus's water daily.
Yeah. It's left to me. Not very intimidating at all.
Everything is left to you!
Wokka-wokka-wokka!
Wokka-wokka-wokka!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
In Moe We Trust.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Touché!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
varusword75 wrote:
you volunteer? Do they dominate your church?
I suspect like most liberals you're full of it and assume you know what they think. I've not met to many liberals that enjoy, and make a point of, hanging with Christian fundamentalists.
I suspect like most liberals you're full of it and assume you know what they think. I've not met to many liberals that enjoy, and make a point of, hanging with Christian fundamentalists.
*Looks at the thread he made in OoT about going to the creationist research society quarterly meeting.*
*Looks back at Varus.*
/Laughs
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
Going to a meeting and meeting people aren't the same.
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creationist research society quarterly meeting
Going to a meeting and meeting people aren't the same.
You're precious. Meeting an entire group of creationists and discussing their studies doesn't count as meeting people. Do I have to play basketball or something with them instead? I'm sure you discuss a lot of politics on the court, you know, like "So how many of you crack babies are on welfare?" or "blacks are animals, whites never attack people or riot." Stuff like that?
varusword75 wrote:
Locked,
A whole group once! Wow!
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Meeting an entire group of creationists and discussing their studies doesn't count as meeting people
A whole group once! Wow!
Huh. Color me shocked.
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