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It's that, and also because everyone else is smoking it anyway. I live in Montana and it's not as bad here, but it mirrors CA's state of affairs. Here you still have to fake an injury or actually have one to get a MMJ card, (one friend of mine might have broken his arm to get his green card back when the state was about to reform the MMJ and it would have required a real, severe injury. Not "chronic pain", which something like 80%+ of MMJ card holders here got it from) although you might be able to find a few of those ones you can find in CA, where they just charge you like 100$ or something and they'll do it.

But since MMJ has been around recently, you can find it very easily here in MT. That's probably correct.

Although this can backfire pretty bad on the pro-mari side...

Well many of the doctors do mean well. They actually do want to try it and use it as a legitimate medicine to help people. And it does help people. There's this big list of things MMJ can be issued for:

- Glaucoma
- Different kinds of cancer
- Diabetes (maybe?)
- Insomnia
- Anxiety
- Temporary injuries (broken bones etc.)
- etc

But there's chronic pain as well. While there are legitimate cases of it, the fact that 80%+ (more towards 90 IIRC) of green cards are given for chronic pain pretty much just proves there are tons of stoners just faking or exaggerating pain to get cards. You can also throw in lesser anxiety and insomnia. It works because you can fake it in the office and they can't test you for chronic pain really. It's something without proof, that you can lie about.

It's wrong and all that, but damn medical gives fiiiine weed. I'd be happy to grow my own though if it were to be legalized.

So yes, another side of the argument is that everyone has medical and uses it already. I think that can turn too quickly on them though, so it's not a point to use in big debate.

I also can't help but feel that maybe some of these politicians are just behind it for the reputation though, to get young people to like them and all that and vote for them. I missed the press conference yesterday also.

So, why would a doctor prescribe MMJ in lieu of traditional painkillers for short term injuries? More effective? Beneficial additional effects (like say, reducing swelling, or eye pressure in the case of glaucoma)?

Nothing against marijuana, I'm just wondering why on earth, if I had a broken arm, a doctor would prescribe something like pot (which would make me pretty loopy) instead of ibuprofen to dull the pain and reduce swelling.

Glaucomoa, anxiety, those make more sense to me. I guess it could make sense for chronic pain too, since it's not like ibuprofen isn't without its long-term usage risks. But short-term injuries, like a broken arm? I'm not seeing why it'd be prescribed. Is pot really that much more effective a pain killer?

Edited, Jun 27th 2011 11:38am by Eske

Pots' pain reduction qualities are most apparent when the issue is the central nervous system.

People suffering from MS, lupus, fibromyalgia, etc obtain relief with pot that ibuprofen, acetomenifen, and even opiates and their analogues simply don't provide.

As an example; go to your stovetop and turn on a burner. Suspend your arm over the burner and hold it over the heat until you can't stand it anymore. Feel the burn? That's how I feel from head to toe every day. Here are the remedies I have tried:

Ibuprofen: Some relief, but only when the dosage exeeds 7200 mg per day but I don't feel particularily suicidal so that's out
Acetimenofen: no relief
Aspirin: nope
Nuprin: nada
Flexoril: 2 days of pretty significant relief, then nothing
Tramadol: fair relief, but puts one to sleep, so no good
Oxy: No pain relief, but too stoned to care...or work, or anything else
Prednisone: Not really a painkiller, but is a powerful anti-inflamatory so does provide some relief. However most folks wouldn't make the trade-off of side effects for the limited relief so that's out for most people. Also, relief only at dosages most doctors won't allow for more than a few weeks unless circumstances are extraordinary

Pot: Almost total immediate relief from just a couple of puffs, and sustained but diminishing relief for about 48 hours after ingestion. Pot also subdues the seizures and the transient but powerful acute "pain clusters" I have to deal with.

YMMV

I get limited relief with Tramadol at 100mg for the Fibromyalgia pain. I've gotten used to living with pain that once would have sent me running to the medicine cabinet for an aspirin. I went through a long list of NASID's before a doctor thought maybe Tramadol would work and at first it did make me sleepy.

For the central nervous system pain, I find Neutronin and Effector XR both help as they work on the brain chemistry involve. Still a medication that would regulate Substance P in the brain stem would be a miracle drug for Fibro.

I know if Pot was shown to have an effect on Substance P levels, thousands of Fibro suffers would be pushing to make it legal.

I dunno why, it's a god-created miracle plant; None of that technological devils-work.

The couple that recently opened the first pot-shop here are, reportedly, very pious.

Edit - I suppose moral /= religious. honestly though, I'm not sure what's so moral about keeping a plant illegal.



Edited, Jun 28th 2011 2:54pm by Elinda