http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110621/ts_yblog_thelookout/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail?cmtnav=/mwphucmtgetnojsMy hovercraft is full of eels-medical-care-in-jail//num_rating_up/desc/11/0
Short story: Guy lost his job, couldn't find suitable work, took a job as a convenience store clerk. The stress of the job and his age, plus mounting medical problems supposedly became too much, so he robbed a bank for a grand sum of $1 in order to be incarcerated with the intention of getting health care through the prison system.
On the one hand, he only demanded $1, so clearly the robbery was staged, but if it was really all about getting medical care, why did he write a letter to the newspaper ahead of time? It seems more likely to me that he's trying to make a political statement or get his 15 minutes of fame than he is trying to get health care.
Edit: Really? The silliness filter needs some tweaking, guys.
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Edited, Jun 22nd 2011 5:07am by BrownDuck
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I'm sure he really needed the treatment, but the note to the news was a little much. I would probably do the same thing though, because even if it changes nothing in the country/healthcare system, it's a good bet there will be someone who will be willing to help this guy out now.
I got a kick out of this:
He handed her a note and she was so scared she had to go to the hospital? Please...
I got a kick out of this:
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Inside, he handed the teller his $1 robbery demand.
"I didn't have any fears," said Verone. "I told the teller that I would sit over here and wait for police."
The teller was so frightened that she had to be taken to the hospital to be checked out. Verone, meanwhile, was taken to jail, just as he'd planned it.
"I didn't have any fears," said Verone. "I told the teller that I would sit over here and wait for police."
The teller was so frightened that she had to be taken to the hospital to be checked out. Verone, meanwhile, was taken to jail, just as he'd planned it.
He handed her a note and she was so scared she had to go to the hospital? Please...
BrownDuck wrote:
if it was really all about getting medical care, why did he write a letter to the newspaper ahead of time? It seems more likely to me that he's trying to make a political statement
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I'd put him under house arrest and make him work at a convenience store in penance - or he can pick up trash on the side of the road if he'd rather. The guy sounds like a whiney-*** that took issue with having to work at a job he thought beneath him. He thinks robbing a bank is more acceptable than getting help from his family? ...wow.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Robbing a bank is a federal offense. I know the health care of inmates is better than most of us get. The example of what they do for the Juvenile felons I watch would surprise you..
Elinda wrote:
I'd put him under house arrest and make him work at a convenience store in penance - or he can pick up trash on the side of the road if he'd rather. The guy sounds like a whiney-*** that took issue with having to work at a job he thought beneath him. He thinks robbing a bank is more acceptable than getting help from his family? ...wow.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
I don't think it was so much that the job was "beneath" him as it was it came with no health insurance. If a full time job automatically provided health insurance, he wouldn't have had to get arrested to get the tumor on his chest checked out. No private insurer would have touched him for insurance outside his office, and the government health insurance high risk pool probably cost as much as he made in a month as a convenience store clerk.
Health insurance was the only reason I stayed in a job I hated for three years. The second my husband got a job with health insurance that would cover me, I quit.
catwho wrote:
Elinda wrote:
I'd put him under house arrest and make him work at a convenience store in penance - or he can pick up trash on the side of the road if he'd rather. The guy sounds like a whiney-*** that took issue with having to work at a job he thought beneath him. He thinks robbing a bank is more acceptable than getting help from his family? ...wow.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
There are so many more tear-filled sob stories out there - this one doesn't rate.
I don't think it was so much that the job was "beneath" him as it was it came with no health insurance. If a full time job automatically provided health insurance, he wouldn't have had to get arrested to get the tumor on his chest checked out.
I'm all for public health care. I'm against robbing banks.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Elinda wrote:
I'm all for public health care. I'm against robbing banks.
I don't know, giving a teller a letter saying you're robbing them for $1, explaining that you'll be waiting over there for the police to arrive, and handing that teller back the dollar afterwards... well, to me that's almost civil disobedience in an effort to get public health care.
Belkira wrote:
well, to me that's almost civil disobedience in an effort to get public health care.
From only the details in the article it seems he's doing it more so for personal gain than to call attention to the issue. But aside from intent, it does meet every other criterion for civil disobedience.
varusword75 wrote:
When the govn shoves their big gun in my face and force me to...
LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
When the govn shoves their big gun in my face and force me to...
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
When the govn shoves their big gun in my face and force me to...
While you were out, I drew a big government gun on your face in sharpie.
There's a chance that I may still be mad about the other thread.
Touche - sub-defaulted for giving my opinion as the op asked.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Eske Esquire wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
When the govn shoves their big gun in my face and force me to...
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
No you're not. When the govn shoves their big gun in my face and force me to pay for someone elses healthcare that's no different than running into a bank and demanding someone elses money. And you support this.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nat,
W didn't do that. Obama's doing it with Libya but W didn't with Iraq. W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
So since we've just proved Obama's a war monger does this mean you won't be voting for him next year?
Quote:
Is forcing people to pay for a war they don't want any different?
W didn't do that. Obama's doing it with Libya but W didn't with Iraq. W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
So since we've just proved Obama's a war monger does this mean you won't be voting for him next year?
Elinda wrote:
Touche - sub-defaulted for giving my opinion as the op asked.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
I'm all for rating down gbaji. I'm against rating myself.
Sweetums wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Touche - sub-defaulted for giving my opinion as the op asked.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
This place has gone to grade-school hell.
I'm all for rating down gbaji. I'm against rating myself.
never get involved in a land war in asia
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Quote:
W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
wow, that's intense. But, the guy clearly thought he was making the best choice available to him. It is pretty sad when prisoners have better medical care available to them than working people.
shintasama wrote:
Quote:
W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
varusword75 wrote:
Nat,
W didn't do that. Obama's doing it with Libya but W didn't with Iraq. W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
So since we've just proved Obama's a war monger does this mean you won't be voting for him next year?
Quote:
Is forcing people to pay for a war they don't want any different?
W didn't do that. Obama's doing it with Libya but W didn't with Iraq. W actually had congressional authorization to act militarily.
So since we've just proved Obama's a war monger does this mean you won't be voting for him next year?
Edited, Jun 23rd 2011 7:49pm by Nilatai
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nat,
What does that have to do with the fact that W had congressional approval to act whereas as Obama is acting as a dictator would? At least W gave congress the chance to analyze the exact same intel he had. Obama simply said f*ck you congress i'm the president I can do what I want.
How do you rationalize that?
Edited, Jun 24th 2011 10:00am by varusword75
Quote:
Oh right, I forgot Bush pulled out of Iraq as soon as public opinion swayed against it. Y'know, after there were no WMDs found.
What does that have to do with the fact that W had congressional approval to act whereas as Obama is acting as a dictator would? At least W gave congress the chance to analyze the exact same intel he had. Obama simply said f*ck you congress i'm the president I can do what I want.
How do you rationalize that?
Edited, Jun 24th 2011 10:00am by varusword75
varusword75 wrote:
Nat,
What does that have to do with the fact that W had congressional approval to act whereas as Obama is acting as a dictator would? At least W gave congress the chance to analyze the exact same intel he had. Obama simply said f*ck you congress i'm the president I can do what I want.
How do you rationalize that?
Quote:
Oh right, I forgot Bush pulled out of Iraq as soon as public opinion swayed against it. Y'know, after there were no WMDs found.
What does that have to do with the fact that W had congressional approval to act whereas as Obama is acting as a dictator would? At least W gave congress the chance to analyze the exact same intel he had. Obama simply said f*ck you congress i'm the president I can do what I want.
How do you rationalize that?
Also, that has nothing to do with what I said. What you said was that you shouldn't have to pay for other people's healthcare. I asked you why everyone in your country should have to pay for the military, even if they don't support the current war(s)? Which you didn't answer, you just started attacking Obama.
I asked that question because the US spends more on it's military than everything else combined. Yet you're quibbling over what amounts to pittance in comparison.
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Solrain wrote:
WARs can use semi-colons however we want. I once killed a guy with a semi-colon.
LordFaramir wrote:
ODESNT MATTER CAUSE I HAVE ALCHOLOL IN MY VEINGS BETCH ;3
Nilatai wrote:
I asked that question because the US spends more on it's military than everything else combined.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
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