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#77REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 1:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Depending on your perspective. I'd take the ignorance and repression of the 50's (no offense to nadenu, joph, etc) over the super multikultii neo-liberal agenda of today. I've taken the hardline here largely as a response to the immigrant coddling tone of the discussion. I am far more misanthropic than nationalist.
We already have one European pretending to be a xenophobic hillbilly. You're just kind of a redundant afterthought.
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nonwto wrote:
English is very clearly the de facto national language of the country, as well as the lingua Franca.
I disagree with you regardless, just trying to understand better though.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
nonwto wrote:
Globalization, US military bases and cultural hegemony etc. I've met a few Europeans who've been far more American than me, in a manner that's difficult to explain.
Ok. And....? Or did you not have a point...?
nonwto wrote:
English is very clearly the de facto national language of the country, as well as the lingua Franca.
And yet, still not the official language.
nonwto wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
nonwto wrote:
There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists.
"Correcting" implies that you were, you know, correct. Which you weren't, FYI. you seem to be a bit dense, so let me draw this out for you: The girl was a foreign guest. Her own cultural standards are not a factor. She should either conform to the local customs or leave. It doesn't matter that the local customs are xenophobic and ignorant. Foreign interlopers are not generally appreciated. As a non-native, she doesn't logical reason to believe she's an equal. Furthermore, to expect the locals to accommodate her is ridiculous. Deal with it. You don't go to Russia and whinge about Gopniki beating you for being black. You don't go to Turkey and cry about excess body hair. You don't go to Sweden and laugh at the locals for being overrun by Muslim criminals. That's how the world works.
You know, I didn't believe that he was Proof before. Now I'm starting to see it.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
And yet, still not the official language.
But it should be.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
And yet, still not the official language.
But it should be.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
nonwto wrote:
You don't go to Russia and whinge about Gopniki beating you for being black. You don't go to Turkey and cry about excess body hair. You don't go to Sweden and laugh at the locals for being overrun by Muslim criminals. That's how the world works.
Point of order!
I am an American citizen, blessed by Bob with high birth and noble blood on this spinning ball of rock, and I will be damned if I'll brook and sh:t out of some ignorant foreigner just because it's "their country." My people stride this Earth as a Colossus, and should be treated with the requisite level of fear and obsequiousness.
You may now resume your stupidy stupidity, stupid.
#85REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 1:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The point is that you were more, let's say racist, in assuming that the girl must have a foreign sounding name because of her appearance than your classmates were in giving her a nickname. That is, in fact, prejudice. Also, your compulsion to defend someone against "ignorance" because they're foreign. It's quite well hypocritical. If you truly considered them equal then you wouldn't be doing this stupid ****** Was this girl not a functional adult?
nonwto wrote:
The point is that you were more, let's say racist, in assuming that the girl must have a foreign sounding name because of her appearance than your classmates were in giving her a nickname. That is, in fact, prejudice. Also, your compulsion to defend someone against "ignorance" because they're foreign. It's quite well hypocritical. If you truly considered them equal then you wouldn't be doing this stupid sh*te. Was this girl not a functional adult?
Do you even know what racist means...?
#87REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 1:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's a rather meaningless term. I couldn't help but notice how you dodged the rest of the post.
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Where did this jackass come from? I would have suspected the latest incarnation of varus but this guy is actually using proper capitalisation and spelling.
nonwto wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
nonwto wrote:
The point is that you were more, let's say racist, in assuming that the girl must have a foreign sounding name because of her appearance than your classmates were in giving her a nickname. That is, in fact, prejudice. Also, your compulsion to defend someone against "ignorance" because they're foreign. It's quite well hypocritical. If you truly considered them equal then you wouldn't be doing this stupid sh*te. Was this girl not a functional adult?
Do you even know what racist means...?
It's a rather meaningless term. I couldn't help but notice how you dodged the rest of the post.
Yes, because in addition to "racist," you seem to not be able to comprehend the definition of "prejudice" as well. Hell, add to that the definition of "equal." Your post made no sense whatsoever. What should I respond to?
#90REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 1:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You guys seem pretty frustrated. I'm starting to question the value in tying to edify you when you won't make an effort to participate. Well, I'm off to sleep. Read some Thoreau and the first half of Mein Kampf as homework.
nonwto wrote:
You guys seem pretty frustrated. I'm starting to question the value in tying to edify troll you when you won't make an effort to participate. Well, I'm off to sleep. Read some Thoreau and the first half of Mein Kampf as homework.
Oh be honest. And the Thoreau and Mein Kampf part is just superfluous.
I think I know who nonwto is.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
I think I know who nonwto is.
Kachi didn't get banned, though.
AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
I think I know who nonwto is.
He's proof. Used to post here years ago, I think he got banned a few times, then dropped off the radar.
Now he's back.
Yay.
I stupidly took french and spanish during the same sememster in college.... now they are addled in my brain so badly it is probably beyond repair.
Deliciously related TED Talk.
Allegory wrote:
Deliciously related TED Talk.
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Edited, Jun 27th 2011 10:28pm by bsphil
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Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
nonwto wrote:
Fight what, exactly? Universities are a formal place, contrary to the apparently popular conception. It's a matter of basic etiquette and respect. While the professor may not have handled it well, she was essentially correct. It's not very different from the obnoxious American tourists assuming everyone speaks English.
Racial ignorance and prejudice? Where does it stop? You can't force someone to speak English to their friends in casual conversation on their way to the library in a country with no official language. That's completely ignorant and stupid.
What respect and etiquette? Respect and etiquette is realizing that people are different.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I knew a girl in college who was from Korea. Her music teacher (she was a music major) said she couldn't pronounce her name, so she was going to call her "Beverly." Everyone else started calling her that. When I was introduced to her, the girl introduced her as Beverly. I told her she didn't look or sound like a Beverly, so she told me the story. She said her real name was Hee Kyung but no one could pronounce it.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
I learned every real name of all of the foreigners who gave me "U.S. American" names. Many times it isn't that people can't pronounce them, it's that people are just too lazy and don't care to pronounce it.
Btw, "Beverly" is definitely not a "Korean" name. A typical Korean name only consist of 3 syllables (1 syllable per name). If she has a Korean accent, chances are she has a Korean name.
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