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I went to french immersion for 9 years, and was fluent enough to write essay tests in french. It's been a while but I find that if I go to a french area and try to speak french, then within about a week I'm pretty comfortable with it. I think the writing would take a lot longer to come back at this point though. I also know conversational dutch after having lived there for a year, but I'm pretty rusty at this point.
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nonwto wrote:
Does flea not come here anymore?
Flea hasn't been here since her laptop turned up 'missing'. Joph's AI (that's right Joph is an autobot implemented into Zam's forum code) just absorbed her account and masquerades as Flea. It pretends they got married and have wild monkey sex every night, except Thursdays. That's when Joph mows Flea's lawn and makes protein shakes from blended rabbit.
Just english for me too. But I took 4 years of latin in HS, and think I could still stumble my way through a written translation. I can sing Santa Claus is coming to Town in Latin still though.
#55REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Fight what, exactly? Universities are a formal place, contrary to the apparently popular conception. It's a matter of basic etiquette and respect. While the professor may not have handled it well, she was essentially correct. It's not very different from the obnoxious American tourists assuming everyone speaks English.
nonwto wrote:
It's not very different from the obnoxious American tourists assuming everyone speaks English.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
I knew a girl in college who was from Korea. Her music teacher (she was a music major) said she couldn't pronounce her name, so she was going to call her "Beverly." Everyone else started calling her that. When I was introduced to her, the girl introduced her as Beverly. I told her she didn't look or sound like a Beverly, so she told me the story. She said her real name was Hee Kyung but no one could pronounce it.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
#58REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You what? The professor admonished the girl for not speaking the de facto national language of the country she chose to come to I don't see anything obnoxious about it other than the manner in which it was done. It seems like there's some sort of paradoxical anti-American/noble savage sentiment at play here. How dare the evil imperialist native terrorize the helpless, poor brown girl by suggesting that she integrate? Get a grip.
Except she was speaking Chinese to someone else that spoke Chinese. Not Chinese to someone who doesn't speak.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#60REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't suppose you see the irony in finding her name suspicious because it didn't match your preconceived notions of what an Asian would be named.
#61REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists. You should investigate that some time. Don't go grabbing you space suit, I mean world in the figurative sense.
#62REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists. You should investigate that some time. Don't go grabbing you space suit, I mean world in the figurative sense.
nonwto wrote:
Get a grip.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
nonwto wrote:
There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
nonwto wrote:
There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists.
Donate. One day it could be your family.
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
nonwto wrote:
There's this whole world of things such as analogies, metaphors and allegories that exists.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
#67REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your own reading comprehension doesn't seem so great. Note that what I stated was that the girl should have been speaking English as a matter of etiquette. We were quite clearly discussing the core of the matter, not the validity of the reason stated by the professor.
nonwto wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I knew a girl in college who was from Korea. Her music teacher (she was a music major) said she couldn't pronounce her name, so she was going to call her "Beverly." Everyone else started calling her that. When I was introduced to her, the girl introduced her as Beverly. I told her she didn't look or sound like a Beverly, so she told me the story. She said her real name was Hee Kyung but no one could pronounce it.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
I was floored, and insisted on calling her by her real name. I thought that was so obnoxious.
I don't suppose you see the irony in finding her name suspicious because it didn't match your preconceived notions of what an Asian would be named.
Irony? No, not really, but I see what you're getting at. To be completely honest, I don't remember if that's the way the conversation came about or not, but even if it didn't, I'm sure that the thought crossed my mind.
If nothing else, how her Korean parents came to give her such a Western name could've been an interesting story.
nonwto wrote:
Note that what I stated was that the girl should have been speaking English as a matter of etiquette.
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An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come. Victor Hugo
Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
nonwto wrote:
Note that what I stated was that the girl should have been speaking English as a matter of etiquette.
Since we don't have an official language, apparently nonwto thinks that college professors should make that decision on a case by case basis.
Edited, Jun 27th 2011 1:30pm by Belkira
nonwto wrote:
I don't suppose you see the irony in finding her name suspicious because it didn't match your preconceived notions of what an Asian would be named.
I actually might have rolled with "Beverly". I read before that Asians who move to the US or give their kids "American" names tend to be a generation or so off on what's hip in naming these days. A lot of Margrets, Alberts, Carols, Henrys, etc. Any time I think of "Beverly" these days, I picture an older woman working a bank desk or accounts payable.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
nonwto wrote:
I don't suppose you see the irony in finding her name suspicious because it didn't match your preconceived notions of what an Asian would be named.
I actually might have rolled with "Beverly". I read before that Asians who move to the US or give their kids "American" names tend to be a generation or so off on what's hip in naming these days. A lot of Margrets, Alberts, Carols, Henrys, etc. Any time I think of "Beverly" these days, I picture an older woman working a bank desk or accounts payable.
I actually think the conversation was more along the lines of, "Oh, my grandmother's name is Beverly!" and she told me that it's not her real name. That sounds right. But I'm sure I still would've thought, "Korean with a thick accent, named Beverly...?"
Edited, Jun 27th 2011 1:41pm by Belkira
#73REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "Correcting" implies that you were, you know, correct. Which you weren't, FYI. you seem to be a bit dense, so let me draw this out for you: The girl was a foreign guest. Her own cultural standards are not a factor. She should either conform to the local customs or leave. It doesn't matter that the local customs are xenophobic and ignorant. Foreign interlopers are not generally appreciated. As a non-native, she doesn't logical reason to believe she's an equal. Furthermore, to expect the locals to accommodate her is ridiculous. Deal with it. You don't go to Russia and whinge about Gopniki beating you for being black. You don't go to Turkey and cry about excess body hair. You don't go to Sweden and laugh at the locals for being overrun by Muslim criminals. That's how the world works.
nonwto wrote:
She should either conform to the local customs or leave.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
nonwto wrote:
I don't suppose you see the irony in finding her name suspicious because it didn't match your preconceived notions of what an Asian would be named.
I actually might have rolled with "Beverly". I read before that Asians who move to the US or give their kids "American" names tend to be a generation or so off on what's hip in naming these days. A lot of Margrets, Alberts, Carols, Henrys, etc. Any time I think of "Beverly" these days, I picture an older woman working a bank desk or accounts payable.
I actually think the conversation was more along the lines of, "Oh, my grandmother's name is Beverly!" and she told me that it's not her real name. That sounds right. But I'm sure I still would've thought, "Korean with a thick accent, named Beverly...?"
Edited, Jun 27th 2011 1:41pm by Belkira
I'm missing the irony. I bet you could statistically prove that the name Beverly is highly uncommon for a Korean woman.
Alma wrote:
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#76REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 27 2011 at 12:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'll address these both at once due to the terrible forum interface. English is very clearly the de facto national language of the country, as well as the lingua Franca.
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