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#1 Jun 13 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails.html

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By now, we lamestream-media bullies were expecting to have an ******* of IEDs (Internet embarrassment devices) to hurl at our favorite target. But a surprising thing happened after the state of Alaska released more than 24,000 pages of Sarah Palin's emails sent during her term as governor from 2006 to 2008: Like Al Capone's vault, it turned out there was nothing there.

Can we please, as a nation, stop giving a fuck yet?
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#2 Jun 13 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Man, some people just can't give up their fifteen minutes. Even worse when people can't give up on someone else's fifteen minutes.

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 5:31pm by lolgaxe
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#3 Jun 13 2011 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Funny how she warned "real" America (Fox News) that people would be taking emails out of context to attack her. Guess that's just a standard reflex by now.
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#4 Jun 13 2011 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails.html

The LA Times Opinion Page wrote:
By now, we lamestream-media bullies were expecting to have an ******* of IEDs (Internet embarrassment devices) to hurl at our favorite target. But a surprising thing happened after the state of Alaska released more than 24,000 pages of Sarah Palin's emails sent during her term as governor from 2006 to 2008: Like Al Capone's vault, it turned out there was nothing there.

Can we please, as a nation, stop giving a fuck yet?


You go first.
#5 Jun 13 2011 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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We could have stopped giving a fuck about those e-mails three years ago if they hadn't stonewalled on them for this long.
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#6 Jun 13 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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We could have stopped giving a fuck about those e-mails three years ago if they hadn't stonewalled on them for this long.
Eh, same as birth certificate. Wait until opportune time then capitalize on whatever attention it might get.
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#7 Jun 13 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I thought this was going to be about Sarah Palin sending pictures of her ***** to people over Twitter.

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#8 Jun 13 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
We could have stopped giving a fuck about those e-mails three years ago if they hadn't stonewalled on them for this long.


Or, you could have stopped giving a fuck *before* starting this silly process by demanding to dig through her emails in the first place. What was the reason for that again? Does anyone remember?

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 3:21pm by gbaji
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What was the reason for that again? Does anyone remember?

Complete unknown neophyte governor being put on the ticket as first benchwarmer in regards to leader of the free world.
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#10 Jun 13 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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Demea wrote:
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails.html

The LA Times Opinion Page wrote:
By now, we lamestream-media bullies were expecting to have an ******* of IEDs (Internet embarrassment devices) to hurl at our favorite target. But a surprising thing happened after the state of Alaska released more than 24,000 pages of Sarah Palin's emails sent during her term as governor from 2006 to 2008: Like Al Capone's vault, it turned out there was nothing there.

Can we please, as a nation, stop giving a fuck yet?


I don't know about the rest of the nation, but I'd have to start giving a fuck before I could stop.
#11 Jun 13 2011 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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What was the reason for that again? Does anyone remember?

Complete unknown neophyte governor being put on the ticket as first benchwarmer in regards to leader of the free world.


So we normally examine every email sent by a politician during their previous job when they are selected to as VP on a presidential ticket? Strange, but I don't recall that being standard procedure.


Why did we need to check all her email while she was governor again?
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So we normally examine every email sent by a politician during their previous job when they are selected to as VP on a presidential ticket?

Is every politician selected to VP a complete unknown neophyte governor? If not, you need to try some reading comprehension before asking stupid questions.

Here's one reporter's account of seeking the emails. For him, it started when people were looking for information about the unknown governor and a guy turned up seeking her emails for an ethics complaint -- a request which returned heavily redacted results.

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 5:52pm by Jophiel
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#13 Jun 13 2011 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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So we normally examine every email sent by a politician during their previous job when they are selected to as VP on a presidential ticket?

Is every politician selected to VP a complete unknown neophyte governor? If not, you need to try some reading comprehension before asking stupid questions.


You tell me. Can you find me another example of a VP pick who's highest office held was the mere position of state governor and show that this justified a thorough examination of all the emails they sent while in that office?


Why was this necessary again?

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Here's one reporter's account of seeking the emails. For him, it started when people were looking for information about the unknown governor and a guy turned up seeking her emails for an ethics complaint -- a request which returned heavily redacted results.


So a reporter just decided out of the blue that it would be a hoot! That's what I thought.
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You tell me. Can you find me another example of a VP pick who's highest office held was the mere position of state governor and show that this justified a thorough examination of all the emails they sent while in that office?

Nope. But then, I can't think of an unknown neophyte governor who has made it onto the VP ballot since email became commonplace, either. I suppose if McCain had selected someone that didn't make everyone collectively say "Wha?", it wouldn't have been an issue.
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So a reporter just decided out of the blue that it would be a hoot!

Again: Reading. Comprehension. I know she has an (R) after her name and this means you'll yip and yap and growl and wag your little tail to the end for her ("Don't retreat, reload!") but learning how English works would go a long way towards making your complete obedience seem slightly less asinine.

Honestly though, those emails were public record and, if the reporter was legally in the right to file the request, it doesn't matter if he filed it as a "hoot" or because he had firm evidence that she was a Chinese spy. Whining about that doesn't change the fact that it took three years to comply with the request and, had they not stonewalled a legal request for three years, we wouldn't be talking about this today.

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 6:11pm by Jophiel
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Jophiel wrote:
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So we normally examine every email sent by a politician during their previous job when they are selected to as VP on a presidential ticket?

Is every politician selected to VP a complete unknown neophyte governor?

Hell, some folks at the top of the ticket are neophyte Senators.
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Hell, some folks at the top of the ticket are neophyte Senators.

Ones that the press knew much, much more about that said governors! Of course, there it was of vital national importance to chase down every quote his pastor said; something of much greater political value than silly ole official emails.
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#17 Jun 13 2011 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
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You tell me. Can you find me another example of a VP pick who's highest office held was the mere position of state governor and show that this justified a thorough examination of all the emails they sent while in that office?

Nope. But then, I can't think of an unknown neophyte governor who has made it onto the VP ballot since email became commonplace, either.


What of an unknown neophyte Senator? Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket? Hmmm... I'm just curious what the criteria is for getting this sort of complete email-oscopy?

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So a reporter just decided out of the blue that it would be a hoot!

Again: Reading. Comprehension. I know she has an (R) after her name and this means you'll yip and yap...


Funny. I'm pretty sure that the (R) after her name is exactly why the media yipped and yapped at her. Or is there some other criteria I'm missing here?
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gbaji wrote:
What of an unknown neophyte Senator? Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?

I already said -- we need an in-depth investigation into every word some other guy not even on the ticket has ever said. That was much, much more important than official correspondence from the governor's mansion.

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Funny. I'm pretty sure that the (R) after her name is exactly why the media yipped and yapped at her.

I know. You wouldn't be a good guard puppy if everyone didn't look like an enemy!

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 6:17pm by Jophiel
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#19 Jun 13 2011 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?
Wasn't that your entire argument when Obama went golfing?
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#20 Jun 13 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Default
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Jophiel wrote:
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What of an unknown neophyte Senator? Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?

I already said -- we need an in-depth investigation into every word some other guy not even on the ticket has ever said.


When said politician is also a relative unknown, and said "other guy" was the pastor of the church said relatively unknown politician chose to attend? Yeah. I think that's more relevant than a FoI fishing expedition with no cause other than "Let's see if we can find something!".

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That was much, much more important than official correspondence from the governor's mansion.


Yeah. It kinda is. We don't normally demand every single official correspondence from a politicians office when they're running for another office, do we? We do, however, look into external events, statements, and relationships which said politician has all the time.


Have you *ever* heard of a full email request being done like that before? You seriously still going to deny that Palin was subjected to vastly more scrutiny and media assault than any other politician in her position (neophyte or not)? Really? You've got your blinders screwed on really tight then.
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Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?
Wasn't that your entire argument when Obama went golfing?


Huh? That doesn't even make sense.
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Yeah. It kinda is.

Haha... adorable. Yip! Yip! Yip! Grrrrr!!!
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#23 Jun 13 2011 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
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Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?
Wasn't that your entire argument when Obama went golfing?
Huh? That doesn't even make sense.
My mistake, must have been some other long winded yutz that was crying about how the President shouldn't be playing golf on Memorial Day because of his position at the top of the ticket.
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#24 Jun 13 2011 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Or are the standards different if you made it on the top of the ticket?
Wasn't that your entire argument when Obama went golfing?
Huh? That doesn't even make sense.
My mistake, must have been some other long winded yutz that was crying about how the President shouldn't be playing golf on Memorial Day because of his position at the top of the ticket.


Just because the words are all there, doesn't make them meaningful. In the first case, we were talking about someone holding the office of President, not just running for the position. In the second case, I was questioning why someone running for VP was subjected to greater scrutiny than someone running for President.

So if your point is that I'm very consistent with applying higher standards to someone running for President than someone running for Vice President and applying even higher standards to someone who actually is President than either of those, then sure. What was your point again?
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Yeah. It kinda is.

Haha... adorable. Yip! Yip! Yip! Grrrrr!!!


I'm not the one obsessed with someone who unsuccessfully ran on the bottom of a presidential ticket nearly 3 years ago Joph. I'm the guy pointing out the absurdity of people like you who obsess about Sarah Palin. It's like you can't help yourself. Someone mentions her and you start drooling or something.
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#26 Jun 13 2011 at 6:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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So if your point is that I'm very consistent with applying higher standards to someone running for President than someone running for Vice President and applying even higher standards to someone who actually is President than either of those, then sure. What was your point again?
That you'll change the question if you don't like the answer.
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