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#202 Jun 11 2011 at 10:45 AM Rating: Good
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#204 Jun 11 2011 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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Just do yourself a favor and stop now.. You're willingly talking out of complete ignorance. You have no idea how the Chain of Command works and that idiotic comment supports that. I'll just leave you with term "Staff Call"....


Apparently the chain isn't working if you're in a theatre texting back 'LAWLZ IM @ DA MUVEEZ TLK LATRZ!'.

Like I said your overestimating the importance of your phone. Most people do. It's all about good communication and actually doing your job when you're not on the job. Why are you going to a 2 hour movie if you're on call? By doing so you're risking getting up during a movie and walking across the screen. Anything less that doesn't require you to leave is not important enough and shows your lack of communication in your chain. It's a simple call or text before the movie telling the ones under you where you'll be and to only contact you in an emergency. Less important items can wait till after. If you provided good communication to your subs we wouldn't be having this conversation.


#205 Jun 11 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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While I disagree with the light being a distraction...


I find it difficult to believe that you're really being this dense. The first thing that happens in any indoor theater, before the movie even starts, is that the lights go out. There's a reason for this. In a room where the only source of light is the screen, someone sitting in front of you with an iPod texting incessantly is like a fire in the night. It may not be entirely distracting from the movie, but it IS ******* annoying. I figure you of all people would understand the annoyance factor, if anything.
#206Almalieque, Posted: Jun 11 2011 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is why I'm trying to explain to you the difference between the military and the civilian world. In the military, YOU ARE ALWAYS ON CALL! Our version of "On Call" that you are referencing to for us does exist, but that isn't what I'm talking about. That's why, when I was in Korea, if you went on leave, the best thing was to leave the country, because you will get called.
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While I disagree with the light being a distraction...


I find it difficult to believe that you're really being this dense. The first thing that happens in any indoor theater, before the movie even starts, is that the lights go out. There's a reason for this. In a room where the only source of light is the screen, someone sitting in front of you with an iPod texting incessantly is like a fire in the night. It may not be entirely distracting from the movie, but it IS @#%^ing annoying. I figure you of all people would understand the annoyance factor, if anything.
Are you getting dumber? I was fucking trolling. I don't find it a distraction, but can easily understand how someone without my superior focusing skills could.
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#208 Jun 11 2011 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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As an E6, I pretty much have to leave my phone on and charged at all times. I tell my Soldiers that if its an emergency to call three times. That's the only time I'll drop what I'm doing to check the phone. I also make it very clear that they'll regret it if they do that and it isn't important. If they want to text me, they can. If they want to call and BS, they can but they understand that I might not pick up because I'm busy.

If you're in the fucking military and are supposed to be in charge, make damn rules and stop being buddies with everyone. Not there to be your best damn friend. I'd tear into any soldier that tried to interrupt a movie I spent like twenty bucks on because they couldn't find a stapler.

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As an E6, I pretty much have to leave my phone on and charged at all times. I tell my Soldiers that if its an emergency to call three times. That's the only time I'll drop what I'm doing to check the phone. I also make it very clear that they'll regret it if they do that and it isn't important. If they want to text me, they can. If they want to call and BS, they can but they understand that I might not pick up because I'm busy.

If you're in the fucking military and are supposed to be in charge, make damn rules and stop being buddies with everyone. Not there to be your best damn friend. I'd tear into any soldier that tried to interrupt a movie I spent like twenty bucks on because they couldn't find a stapler.

Edited, Jun 11th 2011 2:58pm by lolgaxe


I've never had the problem with people calling me over something trivial as "finding a stapler". Now, it might be silly in the sense that it's a user error, but not "Smith wont leave me alone".

That's a good thing about being an officer vs a NCO. A good NCO will try to take care of everything before going up any higher. I would feel sorry for any Soldier who went above their NCO without their knowledge.

If you're a Platoon Leader, Platoon Sergeant, especially a squad leader, then you might get more petty phone calls. As a section OIC, I mostly only get work relevant phone calls. The calls aren't necessarily better ("I can't log into the computer!"), but at least it's work related.

I had a very important job for about 2 years that I would get phone calls all during the day and night.
#210Almalieque, Posted: Jun 12 2011 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, I just saw X-men 1st class and sat next to people occasionally checking their phones and it did not bother me in the least bit. Matter of fact, only when the screen blacked out in some transition could you even notice that the phone was even lit up. On a good note, I caught a glimpse of what it appeared to be a texted photo of a woman taking an upward picture of her goods. That was a plus.
#211 Jun 12 2011 at 9:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, I just saw X-men 1st class and sat next to people occasionally checking their phones and it did not bother me in the least bit. Matter of fact, only when the screen blacked out in some transition could you even notice that the phone was even lit up. On a good note, I caught a glimpse of what it appeared to be a texted photo of a woman taking an upward picture of her goods. That was a plus.
Well isn't that precious

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#213 Jun 13 2011 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Ok, I just saw X-men 1st class and sat next to people occasionally checking their phones and it did not bother me in the least bit. Matter of fact, only when the screen blacked out in some transition could you even notice that the phone was even lit up. On a good note, I caught a glimpse of what it appeared to be a texted photo of a woman taking an upward picture of her goods. That was a plus.
The movie must have been engaging.
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As an E6, I pretty much have to leave my phone on and charged at all times. I tell my Soldiers that if its an emergency to call three times. That's the only time I'll drop what I'm doing to check the phone. I also make it very clear that they'll regret it if they do that and it isn't important. If they want to text me, they can. If they want to call and BS, they can but they understand that I might not pick up because I'm busy.

If you're in the fucking military and are supposed to be in charge, make damn rules and stop being buddies with everyone. Not there to be your best damn friend. I'd tear into any soldier that tried to interrupt a movie I spent like twenty bucks on because they couldn't find a stapler.


This. Same thing applies in the civilian world. When you're young and stupid, you imagine that you and only you can solve all the problems around you. Then, when you get older and smarter, you realize that you aren't really being paid to be on call 24/7. You find you actually have to work at getting people to follow the correct procedures instead of just calling/paging you directly whenever they have a problem. And then you make it clear to those people that you're not on call 24/7, but that there are people who's jobs are to be on call at any given time, so freaking call them!


I say this somewhat jokingly, after one of our vendor's employees (so he doesn't even work for the same company I work for) called me last night to ask about proper grounding procedures for working on his home computer. Which is funny given the thread in the tech forum about the same thing which I posted on just last week. Here's the thing though. If I hadn't happened to have my phone on me, I wouldn't have answered it (and I certainly wouldn't have done so in a theater). And he wouldn't have had any problem if I hadn't. Life would have gone on. He'd have figured it out, or asked someone else, or in some other way solved his own problem. He understands that. I understand that. No one expects you go do more and you're stupid if you spend all your effort trying to do so.



Again though, this comes back to what we might define as an "emergency". I just can't see how anything so unimportant to you that you'd continue to sit through a movie before physically doing anything could possibly be important enough to have to send a text message back to someone during that same movie.
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#216Almalieque, Posted: Jun 13 2011 at 4:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you're not getting phone calls after normal work hours, then either you, your job or position is not important. Period. It has nothing to do with "growing up".
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If you're not getting phone calls after normal work hours, then either you, your job or position is not important. Period. It has nothing to do with "growing up".


Lol! Um... When something is really important, you don't trust that the one person someone thinks to call is going to happen to be available to answer that call. I'm one of a couple dozen senior+ engineer level people who are on an on-call rotation. What this means is that I know that if someone really needs help and it's really important, they have a procedure to follow that will get them that help. If I'm not on call, I'm not in that procedure. If they call me and I happen to be available, I'm free to help out (and I often do), but I'm under no obligation to do so, and my customers know this.

What you're describing as "important" is more correctly labeled "ad hoc". You have no system in place to handle emergencies. That's a failure of planning, and doesn't really show any heroism or importance on your part.

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Again though, this comes back to what we might define as an "emergency". I just can't see how anything so unimportant to you that you'd continue to sit through a movie before physically doing anything could possibly be important enough to have to send a text message back to someone during that same movie.


It's lack of empathy. Just look at what was said in the most recent post:

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If you can't see how responding to a question in the theater is not being inconsiderate of others, then it's you that aren't being considerate.
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Yet the whole thread was about how there's a theater that does kick people out of the movie because the owners DO find it inconsiderate. And the person being kicked out was already warned not to do it but did it anyway.

It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.
#219 Jun 13 2011 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:

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If you can't see how responding to a question in the theater is not being inconsiderate of others, then it's you that aren't being considerate.
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Yet the whole thread was about how there's a theater that does kick people out of the movie because the owners DO find it inconsiderate. And the person being kicked out was already warned not to do it but did it anyway.

It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.
To be fair, I don't think anyone thinks he's a sociopath, just irredeemably thick.
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It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.


Color me surprised that a thread that purported to be about simply asking whether it annoyed other people turned into him arguing that it shouldn't bother them after he didn't get the answer that he liked.
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If you're not getting phone calls after normal work hours, then either you, your job or position is not important. Period. It has nothing to do with "growing up".


Lol! Um... When something is really important, you don't trust that the one person someone thinks to call is going to happen to be available to answer that call. I'm one of a couple dozen senior+ engineer level people who are on an on-call rotation. What this means is that I know that if someone really needs help and it's really important, they have a procedure to follow that will get them that help. If I'm not on call, I'm not in that procedure. If they call me and I happen to be available, I'm free to help out (and I often do), but I'm under no obligation to do so, and my customers know this.

What you're describing as "important" is more correctly labeled "ad hoc". You have no system in place to handle emergencies. That's a failure of planning, and doesn't really show any heroism or importance on your part.

Edited, Jun 13th 2011 3:56pm by gbaji


So, I assume that you aren't going to answer my question. By not doing so, I think it's safe to say that you believe getting up and walking in front of people and the screen is much more annoying than texting in the theater.

Anyway, I left out an option in my last statement. If you're not getting calls outside of your work hours, then the problem itself probably isn't important.

If you're on an on-call rotation, then you aren't as important as you think. In the military, for example, a commander is ultimately responsible for anything that occurs in his/her command regardless of anything. There's no rotation and you're always on call. If ANYONE makes a mistake, it can be used against you.

So, since you didn't answer the last question, answer me this. If that were you, where any wrong decision made by anyone you work with will come back to you, would you want to be notified of anything important that is going on?
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Yet the whole thread was about how there's a theater that does kick people out of the movie because the owners DO find it inconsiderate. And the person being kicked out was already warned not to do it but did it anyway.

It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.


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Color me surprised that a thread that purported to be about simply asking whether it annoyed other people turned into him arguing that it shouldn't bother them after he didn't get the answer that he liked.


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The girl was wrong. Assuming her story was a lie, I don't feel any sympathy for her. I can see how a bright light can cause someone to turn their head. What I'm saying is that there might be legitimate reasons to send a text during a movie and when that happens, people shouldn't be that distracted from the movie and/or complain that the text wasn't "important" enough. It's the difference between someone asking a question "who is that?" in a theater vs having an entire conversation. Hearing that voice distracted me, but it isn't a big deal because it was quick, relevant but not necessarily important.
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Almalieque wrote:
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Yet the whole thread was about how there's a theater that does kick people out of the movie because the owners DO find it inconsiderate. And the person being kicked out was already warned not to do it but did it anyway.

It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.


Eske wrote:
Color me surprised that a thread that purported to be about simply asking whether it annoyed other people turned into him arguing that it shouldn't bother them after he didn't get the answer that he liked.


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The girl was wrong. Assuming her story was a lie, I don't feel any sympathy for her. I can see how a bright light can cause someone to turn their head. What I'm saying is that there might be legitimate reasons to send a text during a movie and when that happens, people shouldn't be that distracted from the movie and/or complain that the text wasn't "important" enough. It's the difference between someone asking a question "who is that?" in a theater vs having an entire conversation. Hearing that voice distracted me, but it isn't a big deal because it was quick, relevant but not necessarily important.


Oh, this is the old "I agree with you, so I'm going to argue vehemently against you over minutia for 30 pages" type.

Yeah. Okay.

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The girl was wrong. Assuming her story was a lie, I don't feel any sympathy for her. I can see how a bright light can cause someone to turn their head. What I'm saying is that there might be legitimate reasons to send a text during a movie and when that happens, people shouldn't be that distracted from the movie and/or complain that the text wasn't "important" enough. It's the difference between someone asking a question "who is that?" in a theater vs having an entire conversation. Hearing that voice distracted me, but it isn't a big deal because it was quick, relevant but not necessarily important.


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I'm confused.

Is the point of this thread to look for a polite reason to text in a movie theater? There is no polite reason. That's why you're told/asked to turn the phone off. If you have to keep your phone on constantly "for emergencies" and were trying to be polite, you wouldn't BE at the movies in the first place.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
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Yet the whole thread was about how there's a theater that does kick people out of the movie because the owners DO find it inconsiderate. And the person being kicked out was already warned not to do it but did it anyway.

It's amazing seeing someone imply that an attitude of "Well if I don't find it annoying, you shouldn't either" is actually acceptable behavior.


Eske wrote:
Color me surprised that a thread that purported to be about simply asking whether it annoyed other people turned into him arguing that it shouldn't bother them after he didn't get the answer that he liked.


Almalieque wrote:
The girl was wrong. Assuming her story was a lie, I don't feel any sympathy for her. I can see how a bright light can cause someone to turn their head. What I'm saying is that there might be legitimate reasons to send a text during a movie and when that happens, people shouldn't be that distracted from the movie and/or complain that the text wasn't "important" enough. It's the difference between someone asking a question "who is that?" in a theater vs having an entire conversation. Hearing that voice distracted me, but it isn't a big deal because it was quick, relevant but not necessarily important.


Oh, this is the old "I agree with you, so I'm going to argue vehemently against you over minutia for 30 pages" type.

Yeah. Okay.



No, this is me telling you to get your facts straight if you're going to argue against me. If you're not going to take the time to ensure the accuracy of what you're saying, then you can only blame yourself of the numerous follow on pages of explanations.
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