Anthony Weiner not sure if that's his weiner.Follow

I think he's just looking for an excuse to "investigate" online pictures of weiners.

They're not, in the same way that talking on your cell phone while having dinner isn't either. But one isn't necessary for the other, and tends to distract from it. No amount of "investigating" the screen shots of the picture will *ever* tell us who sent it and whether or not Weiner's account was actually hacked. Isn't that the question: Did the Congressman send that picture or not?

If it turns out that he didn't and someone hacked his YFrog account to send it pretending to be him, *then* you have a starting point. You can trace who that person was and go from there. I just don't see how looking at screenshots of the picture taken by third parties can ever actually accomplish anything other than distracting us from the actual issue at hand.

He should talk to Varus.

Dude, the whole issue is nothing but a distraction.

Ummm... no.

Well, I don't know... maybe you can't do two things at once. Most people (or groups of people in this case) can.

Nope. But I assume that if a message (picture in this case) is sent from your account that you sent it and are responsible for the content unless you can reasonably prove it wasn't you. Claiming "I was hacked", but then not actually having any law enforcement investigate said hacking goes a long way towards not providing reasonable proof that it wasn't you. Going after those who dared to take screen shots of the picture you sent instead of doing that takes us even farther into crazy-land.

Insisting that it makes sense to investigate those who took screen shots of the picture prior to actually investigating the alleged hacking just means you're drinking the crazy-land kool-aide. We have nothing but his word that he was actually hacked, and given his actions since then (or lack of in some cases), forgive me if I have a hard time accepting that word at face value.

Weiner isn't going after them, individual parties are investigating it on their own initiative. Why this drives you to such distraction is... well, it's weird but I assume it's more of a partisan thing than anything logical. 'Cause it sure doesn't make sense.

Uh huh... While he sits back and attempts to duck the issue. So he's got a lot of liberals out there willing to carry water for him. I'm not sure how that changes things. You think it "makes sense" for them to make a big deal about completely irrelevant things semi-related to the scandal involving Weiner.

I don't think it "makes sense". Not unless the purpose is to attempt to turn attention away from from Weiner and in any other direction possible. Which is what I said from the start.




It is a partisan thing Joph. If this was done by a Republican you'd be screaming and howling for his resignation. But because he's a Democrat, it's suddenly perfectly reasonable for third parties to smear those who revealed the picture sent from his account and point the finger of blame/suspicion at them. If a conservative group were doing that to protect a Republican, don't you think you'd be screaming about it too? Yeah. You would.

You know what the difference is? If this had happened to a Republican, I'd be saying the exact same thing I am now: That he should be contacting law enforcement to investigate the alleged hacking and that we should not speculate in any direction until after said investigation has determined if he sent the message or not. I would certainly not be defending people who insisted we should investigate those who made the issue public, nor would I be defending the Congressman if he choose not to contact the police about the issue. If he did that, I would treat it as an admission of guilt and would be calling for his resignation.


But that's the difference between Liberals and Conservatives, isn't it? The ends always justifies the means for your side, and the end of keeping a Democrat in office trumps any act of illegality, impropriety, or abuse of office. Your ethics get tossed right out the window the second it's inconvenient for your own political party. That's why you insist it "makes sense" to essentially white wash this issue. You're ok with Weiner getting away with this. You don't care if your elected officials are sending pictures of their private parts to 21 year old college students as long as they vote in lockstep for the things you want.


That's where the partisanship is on this Joph. And you damn well know it.

I know that from all those hacked WoW account stories I read, people routinely go after hackers instead of just, y'know, changing their passwords and running a virus scan

Bullshit. Show me where I "screamed and howled" for Rep. Lee's resignation following his little Craigslist debacle. Show me where I "screamed and howled" for Senator Craig's resignation after his bathroom cruising scandal. "Screamed and howled" for Ensign's resignation? "Screamed and howled" for Vitter's resignation? In fact, show me where I "screamed and howled" for anyone's resignation after some *****-based dalliance.


By in large, I don't care about any elected officials sending pictures of their dicks to any adult who isn't upset by it. The "family values freakout" thing is traditionally a GOP event. I might watch and comment on it but I save my righteous ire for shit that actually matters.


You making shit up about me and then insisting that you'd act totally different? You're flipping out about people taking it upon themselves to look at things they find suspicious because you're praying for some Democratic fall, nothing more. I don't care if they investigate Weiner, investigate the picture, screen shots... whatever. I see no reason to. Meanwhile you're saying "Hey! Don't look at that! No, you need to only look at this! Stop it! No, ONLY this! I don't care how weird that is... STOP IT!"

Edited, Jun 3rd 2011 11:55pm by Jophiel

If it were a conservative, he'd have given us a 40 paragraph rant about privacy and the constitution or something.

Yeah, but it was my third one on this page, and worked into the general discussion. Don't get Weiner envy.

Smoking gun on the alleged perps behind the astro-turfed scandal.

What a bastion of conservative values he is!

Also, since he has **** connections, it'd explain where the undie pic actually came from.