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#77 May 31 2011 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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ITT (again): gbaji's analogies SUCK.
#78 May 31 2011 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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How honest was it? Was he thinking "I can't wait for this to be over so I can go hit the course" the whole time? Is that really honoring our fallen soldiers?
I don't doubt he was thinking that he couldn't wait for it to be over, but I doubt golf was the reason. Have you ever gone to someone's house to explain to them that their son/daughter was killed and fought to his/her dying breath defending their friends and fellow soldiers? Now imagine that done to hundreds, if not thousands of people. I can tell you from experience that yes, the biggest thought in your head is "I can't wait for this to be over" because no matter how patriotic and heroic you make their children sound, the audience always blames you for the deaths. It makes you feel like ****, because no matter what it makes you think back to the experience that caused the death and to question your decisions at the time. "I can't wait to wash this horrible experience away" isn't all that uncommon either.

Again, he was enjoying his freedom that those same fallen soldiers fought so he could enjoy. You're saying he shouldn't enjoy that freedom is belittling the thought of those soldiers. I do like how you're using dead soldiers that fought for your right to have this opinion as a basis for your rage, though. Really honoring their memories.
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#79 May 31 2011 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Even if you gave a great eulogy at someone's funeral, it's still not appropriate to show up in a clown suit

On the other hand, depending on your relation to the deceased, it may be entirely appropriate to go golfing later rather than spending all afternoon in your basement, dressed in sackcloth and weeping on a pile of ashes.
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#80 May 31 2011 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
I'm not one of those who insists that if a president doesn't do a specific set of activities, he's somehow letting everyone down or anything, but it is somewhat disrespectful for him to be playing golf.


gbaji wrote:
Even if you gave a great eulogy at someone's funeral, it's still not appropriate to show up in a clown suit (at most funerals I suppose!). And it's not appropriate to talk about a brides previous sexual activities at her wedding reception no matter how wonderful of a speech you gave earlier. And, as I pointed out earlier, it's not appropriate to go to a strip club on your anniversary because you bought your wife a great gift.


Yes, somewhat disrespectful. Great analogies, champ.



Edited, May 31st 2011 10:10pm by bsphil
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#81 May 31 2011 at 9:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why is it that gbaji won't respond to lolgaxe, who actually has some experience with this?

No gbaji, we're not outraged. And not because it's Obama, or because he's a Democrat, it's because there's nothing to be outraged over.
#82 May 31 2011 at 9:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I can just see the headlines now, "Man participates in recreational activity during holiday!" That's some scandalous stuff right there. It's a good thing the vile liberal media didn't report this, there could have been riots.
#83 May 31 2011 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
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I can just see the headlines now, "Man participates in recreational activity during holiday!" That's some scandalous stuff right there. It's a good thing the vile liberal media didn't report this, there could have been riots.
"Obama only spends morning, evening honoring troops"
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#84 Jun 01 2011 at 4:32 AM Rating: Good
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If Obama really cared about the troops, he would have enlisted instead of playing golf.
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#85 Jun 01 2011 at 5:02 AM Rating: Default
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Ailitardif wrote:
If Obama really cared about the troops, he would have enlisted instead of playing golf.


That doesn't even make any sense.
#86 Jun 01 2011 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Gbaji wrote:
It's not "every moment of every day". I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that the commander in chief refrain from what is broadly viewed as an indulgent recreation on the two days of the year when we're honoring the men and women who fight and die at his command. I mean, really? He couldn't not play golf this one day? That's the issue. It's not every day. It's the day he choose to go play golf. How the hell can you not see this?


How many non-presidential american golfers also went to play golf?

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Why don't you ask the left in Canada why they hate Harper for not being bubbly?

Oh right, they don't. They're just looking for any reason to attack him, same as down there.


I'm still waiting for him to do something before making any sort of comments about his government.

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I can just see the headlines now, "Man participates in recreational activity during holiday!" That's some scandalous stuff right there. It's a good thing the vile liberal media didn't report this, there could have been riots.


This.
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#87 Jun 01 2011 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Scheduling something "fun" right after something solemn is just in questionable taste is all.
You've clearly never been to an Irish wake.
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#88 Jun 01 2011 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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Ailitardif wrote:
If Obama really cared about the troops, he would have enlisted instead of playing golf.


That doesn't even make any sense.

Neither does the outrage.
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You, democrats, are one to talk.

Hey, whatever makes you and Gbaji feel better about throwing little princess hissy fits over a round of golf.
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#92 Jun 01 2011 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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and when he's a normal person again that's fine. For now he's the potus and should know that playing golf on a day dedicated to the rememberence of those who died to preserve our freedoms and liberties is just not classy and in fact disrespectful.

But like i've said, and been proven to be correct on numerous occasions (like this one), Democrats will do anything to offend or upset the military.


He is a normal person whose job happens to be being the President of the United States Of America.
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#93 Jun 01 2011 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Nilatai wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Scheduling something "fun" right after something solemn is just in questionable taste is all.
You've clearly never been to an Irish wake.

It's not just the Irish, bub!
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#94 Jun 01 2011 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
But like i've said, and been proven to be correct on numerous occasions (like this one), Democrats will do anything to offend or upset the military.
But like I've said, and been proven to be correct on numerous occasions (like this one), Republicans will do anything to get soldiers killed just to use them as speaking notes.
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#96 Jun 01 2011 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Obama is commanding?
Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Bush started?
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#97 Jun 01 2011 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Obama is commanding?
Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Bush started?

The one Obama is ending without securing a region and the one Obama has more than doubled forces in since he took office.
#98 Jun 01 2011 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Obama is commanding?
Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Bush started?
The one Obama is ending without securing a region and the one Obama has more than doubled forces in since he took office.
You're right, cleaning up after such a huge ineffective clusterfuck does suck.
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#99 Jun 01 2011 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Obama is commanding?


None. Afhganistan and Libya don't count as Obama is not the supreme commander of either theater. However, if you're asking how many armed conflicts are being fought by Americans, then the answer is 2. And one of them was started by former President George W. Bush and other world leaders of the time.
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#100 Jun 01 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Obama is commanding?
Remind me again how many "armed conflicts" Bush started?
The one Obama is ending without securing a region and the one Obama has more than doubled forces in since he took office.
You're right, cleaning up after such a huge ineffective clusterfuck does suck.

Yeah, that's why the death toll in Afghanistan has more than doubled since the Prez took office, because it was so poorly managed before (Under GW for 8 years: 630 dead; Under BO for <2.5 years: 973 dead). Woo hoo! On pace for a 400% increase in casualties for like periods.
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