Eske Esquire wrote:
It's all in how you couch it, really. Seems that the article (or the study itself; I can't be ***** to go back and read it all again) phrased it in a deliberately incendiary manner.
Saying "Black people are objectively less attractive than other races" while (hypothetically) true in the literal sense, is probably not the best way of doing it. Inserting some qualifiers, like stressing that this was about the perception of the respondents, might go a long way towards lessening the emotional response.
Edited, May 27th 2011 11:59am by Eske
How is that "'hypothetically' true in the literal sense?"
Jophiel wrote:
A rational, scientific basis based on a study of how our little biochemical engines work?
So, you're arguing that there is a way to objectively show how something subjective is really objective? I want to see how this is possible. Under that logic, everything is objective and there is no such thing as subjectivity.
If you agree with "scientifically supporting racism", then so be it. Just acknowledge it and move on. Don't pretend that it isn't just that. You can legitimately argue people's preferences, but you can't state anything as a fact.
Just because 55% of your study states that green beans are the worst tasting type of beans, doesn't make it so.
Jophiel wrote:
Which you've already admitted there's strong cultural reasons for. The question is, in a vacuum, would those same people be attracted in the same manner? Is there a significant physiological/neurological component to attraction which gets drowned out by cultural concerns and, left to its own devices, would show a different preference than what you see on the street?
Ah well, like I said, I don't have the emotional energy invested in it that you do.
How are you able to test someone who hasn't been previously exposed to a society or culture? In any case, I would argue that everything would be a toss up in a vacuum, hence my argument with Asian Americans vs Asian immigrants.
The simple fact that culture plays such a huge role is evident that it isn't objective. If you want to determine what people find attractive and why, then state that. Don't create this pseudo study on how black women are attractively inferior to all other women. That is racism at it's core.
Jophiel wrote:
Oh, I'm done. His well of emotional rage is far deeper than my well of largely apathetic scientific inquiry.
Yea, sure.. it was my "emotional rage".
I find it funny that when I claim that I don't want to share a room or shower with a guy who might be attracted with me (because he's attracted to other men), I'm called a homophobe, but you wont label a study that claims that black women are objectively less attractive than other races as racist. This further supports my claim of only supporting your own personal agenda at any cost.