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#27 May 21 2011 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
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Wonder Gem PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
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First, I think everyone agrees that this article is complete and utter BS

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Black women tend to be more aggressive, and men in American culture tend to desire submissive and/or non-aggressive women.


While that might be true for some, I see that as a delusional excuse for other reasons. I don't necessarily think it's wrong, I just think it's silly to take out an entire race of women from your selection pool based on "preference".


I just want to make it clear that I did say "tend" not that all black women are like that. That's the stereotype anyways. I'll be perfectly honest in saying that Oregon is probably one of the least racially diverse states in the country, with a pretty racist past including sundown laws. I actually haven't met that many black people. The ones I have met though, I didn't get that impression from them at all. Stereotypes are stereotypes.


I understand your point. I was just clarifying that when people who state that (not literally you) have other reasons for their preferences.
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I love aggressive women, but I tend to dislike passive/submissive people in general, no matter race, gender, and any classification in between.
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It may, however, be more accurate.
It's not.

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#30 May 21 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
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I love aggressive women, but I tend to dislike passive/submissive people in general, no matter race, gender, and any classification in between.


Exactly. There exist every "type" of woman in every race. If you (in general) are not attracted to a specific race, that's fine, but don't put out some BS study to say that one race is objectively more or less attractive than another. If the answer varies on who you ask, then it isn't objective.
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I'm skimming through that article, and I can't seem to find what they're basing it on. Who is or isn't finding certain women attractive? All they seem to refer to is the "average Add Health respondent." Maybe mostly white people read a boring health website?
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Yeah, that's what I meant about the lack of details from the study. For all I know, it was five white college dudes or something browsing AmIHotOrNot for an hour.
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#33 May 22 2011 at 12:12 AM Rating: Default
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Yeah, that's what I meant about the lack of details from the study. For all I know, it was five white college dudes or something browsing AmIHotOrNot for an hour.


There isn't any amount of details that could justify their claim. People of the same race/ethnicity/culture are naturally more attracted to each other, so there is NO way to objectively say that one race is more/less attractive. This is nothing but a prejudice/ignorant/probably, but not necessarily, racist study. That means something to me as I never throw the "race card" and despise people who abuse it.
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People of the same race/ethnicity/culture are naturally more attracted to each other

Heh... looking around, I found this study from the Review of Economic Studies which did speed dating tests to try and find information about racial preferences. The raw data showed that Asians really got dorked over, not even being the preference of other Asians.

Results by order of preference:
White Male: W, H, B, A
White Female: W, B/H, A

Black Male: B, H, W, A
Black Female: B, H, W, A

Hispanic Male: W, H, B, A
Hispanic Female: H, B, W, A

Asian Male: W, A, H, B
Asian Female: W, A, H, B

The study itself has numbers associated with it which show, for instance, that black women's preference for black men is much stronger than white women's preference for white men. And, no, I'm not presenting this as any sort of gospel (for one thing, "Asian" may be too diverse where a Japanese man may not desire a Chinese or Laotian woman for other reasons). Just something I found. I like how no one goes from White to Black (or vice versa) and has to stop at Hispanic-town as a halfway point.

Edited, May 22nd 2011 8:22am by Jophiel
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I think these "studies" went something like this:

RESEARCHER:[In Fred Garvin voice] So Miss.. Shemeeca.. What would you do to make me want to..roger roundly dat fruit-tee boo-tee.. ? <snickers uncontrollably>

BLACK GIRL: <scoffs> <walks the @#%^ out!>


Edited, May 22nd 2011 10:55am by Kelvyquayo
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Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
People of the same race/ethnicity/culture are naturally more attracted to each other

Heh... looking around, I found this study from the Review of Economic Studies which did speed dating tests to try and find information about racial preferences. The raw data showed that Asians really got dorked over, not even being the preference of other Asians.

Results by order of preference:
White Male: W, H, B, A
White Female: W, B/H, A

Black Male: B, H, W, A
Black Female: B, H, W, A

Hispanic Male: W, H, B, A
Hispanic Female: H, B, W, A

Asian Male: W, A, H, B
Asian Female: W, A, H, B

The study itself has numbers associated with it which show, for instance, that black women's preference for black men is much stronger than white women's preference for white men. And, no, I'm not presenting this as any sort of gospel (for one thing, "Asian" may be too diverse where a Japanese man may not desire a Chinese or Laotian woman for other reasons). Just something I found. I like how no one goes from White to Black (or vice versa) and has to stop at Hispanic-town as a halfway point.

Edited, May 22nd 2011 8:22am by Jophiel


Well, there's a couple of things with this "study". First of all, if you were to rank the preferences made with each race, "4" being the most preferred and "1" being the least preferred, Asian women are the "least attractive", which completely contradicts the other story. This is evident on this NOT being objective.

White Female: 4 + 2 + 4 + 4 = 14
Black Female: 2 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 9
Hispanic Female: 3 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 11
Asian Women: 1 + 1 + 1 + 3 = 6

Secondly, as you stated "Asian", might be too diverse as there are different types of Asians.

Thirdly, culture is hugely being underrated. Asian and Hispanic immigrants probably have different preferences than first/second generation Asian and Hispanic Americans. If you're an Asian who grew up in the U.S. with little to no Asian population, you're probably more "Americanized" than immigrants. This could very well result in being more attracted to U.S. women.

Fourthly, this goes hand in hand with "Asian women being more submissive" and "Black women being more aggressive". It's not the women, it's the culture. U.S. relationship culture is more aggressive than the Asian culture, it's not the women. An Asian American woman is just as aggressive as any other U.S. woman.



Edited, May 23rd 2011 4:47am by Almalieque
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Blablabla bullsh*t mingled with stupid bullsh*t.


Edited, May 23rd 2011 4:47am by Almalieque


Well, I think you win the stupid award from this thread. Really man, you are heads and shoulders above the crowd on idiocy with this one. Congratulations that takes some practice.

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:14am by decayed

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Almalieque wrote:

Secondly, as you stated "Asian", might be too diverse as there are different types of Asians.
Unfortunately true, and ditto depending on which country you're asking. In the UK, for example, "Asian" means Indian or Pakistani. What America calls Asian, we call Oriental, or some variant thereof. More likely we just name the country rather than the continent, though.

That said, "Asian" is probably the most nebulous option on the list.

Edited, May 23rd 2011 2:42am by Lucinus
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decayed wrote:
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Blablabla bullsh*t mingled with stupid bullsh*t.


Edited, May 23rd 2011 4:47am by Almalieque


Well, I think you win the stupid award from this thread. Really man, you are heads and shoulders above the crowd on idiocy with this one. Congratulations that takes some practice.

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:14am by decayed

Edited, May 23rd 2011 1:15am by decayed


Care to expound or are you just going to continue to be an ignorant dunce? Actually, save yourself the embarrassment and don't say anything at all. If responses vary depending on certain conditions, then they aren't objective, plain and simple. Don't fault me because you're too simple to grasp such an easy concept.
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He wasn't faulting you for him being too simple, he was faulting you for being stupid. Christ, learn to readingcomprehend.
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Poor people are generally less attractive than those who aren't.

...and they say money can't buy ya love.
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#43 May 23 2011 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
Yeah, the "Asian" thing struck me as kind of odd in general. I mean apart from the fact that there are four quite physically distinct groups in Asia that I can think of without thinking much (East Asian, Southeast Asian, South/Central Asian, plus that part of the Middle East that's West Asian), there are such huge differences even in those groups that it's just really awfully vague. From the way the study looked, I assume they meant East Asian, but it's impossible to tell, really.

And what's up with varus' obsession with cheese?
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Elinda,

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...and they say money can't buy ya love.


They also say "I aint sayin she's a gold digga but she aint messin with no broke n*ggas". Well Kanye does anyway.



Ah, but varus: mo' money, mo' problems.
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And what's up with varus' obsession with cheese?


Maybe Varus is Exo's sock?
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Psychology Today published (on the web anyway) a take-down of the study and its methodology.
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Actually, they had no issue with exploring the premise...
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Note that the data could have come out any which way, and no matter how it turned out we would have reported what we found. We do think this is an interesting and important topic of investigation. Other rigorous peer-reviewed published research (involving a much less representative and smaller sample of the United States) has shown statistically significant mean differences in attractiveness ratings based on ethnicity

...it's just that this particular "study" has some major flaws in its methodology and how it uses the data to arrive at its conclusions.
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