Just add U.S. names & organizations and change the dates to 2013. Budget considerations will become ever so much more important when deciding who to treat and when.
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Cutting funding for hospitals makes them run slower?
Man, it's a good thing insurance companies cover everybody and would never decide to deny coverage to someone in need.
Edited, May 20th 2011 11:18am by bsphil
Man, it's a good thing insurance companies cover everybody and would never decide to deny coverage to someone in need.
Edited, May 20th 2011 11:18am by bsphil
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
No one actually thinks the NHS is all that great, but it's still better than most systems.
And I'll just go ahead and blame the Tories for this.
Edited, May 20th 2011 4:19pm by Kalivha
And I'll just go ahead and blame the Tories for this.
Edited, May 20th 2011 4:19pm by Kalivha
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 27% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Edited, May 20th 2011 11:25am by Jophiel
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Edited, May 20th 2011 11:25am by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
That's certainly statistically relevant.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
LeWoVoc wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
84% of Americans rate the health care they receive at "C" or better in a recent Robert Wood Johnson poll. 65% at "A" or "B". Looks like it's working pretty well to me.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
So US healthcare is working so great that US nationals go abroad to get treated? Right.
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
bsphil wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
That's a great point. Policy is written to pander to emotional responses. Guess who has the biggest effected emotional response on this question.
Kalivha wrote:
So US healthcare is working so great that US nationals go abroad to get treated? Right.
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
No, it's working so well that kings come here to get treated.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Kalivha wrote:
So US healthcare is working so great that US nationals go abroad to get treated? Right.
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
No, it's working so well that kings come here to get treated.
You do know that in the UK, with money, you can still get private health care without waiting lists if it bothers you, right?
It's just that the ones who cannot afford it for whatever reason have the option of getting treatment, and as far as anecdotal experience goes, I had free emergency surgery with a 30 minute wait the first time I came to the country, had a 2 hour wait in the A&E on a Friday night when I needed it, and for everything else there's walk-in clinics.
The only thing I opt out of is dentistry because there are waiting lists for that and because I can get it cheaply elsewhere.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Meanwhile the Journal of the American Medical Association just reported that urban/suburban areas in the United States have lost 25% of their emergency rooms in last 20 years due to rising costs.
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
American Health Care: Livin' the Dream!
Funny, no one I know has ever had to wait to get treated.
The reason no one in the states waits is because most sane people here will have to be on the verge of death before they'll go to an ER. I know that's the only way I'll go.
MoebiusLord wrote:
No, it's working so well that kings come here to get treated.
Meanwhile, everyone else leaves to receive care abroad.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Kalivha wrote:
No one actually thinks the NHS is all that great, but it's still better than most systems.
Glad you're soaking up British culture.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Kalivha wrote:
So US healthcare is working so great that US nationals go abroad to get treated? Right.
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
No, it's working so well that kings come here to get treated.
Edited, May 20th 2011 12:42pm by bsphil
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
MoebiusLord wrote:
84% of Americans rate the health care they receive at "C" or better in a recent Robert Wood Johnson poll. 65% at "A" or "B". Looks like it's working pretty well to me.
George Carlin wrote:
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MoebiusLord wrote:
84% of Americans rate the health care they receive at "C" or better in a recent Robert Wood Johnson poll. 65% at "A" or "B". Looks like it's working pretty well to me.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
bsphil wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Kalivha wrote:
So US healthcare is working so great that US nationals go abroad to get treated? Right.
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
I go abroad to get treated, too, but that's mostly because my dentist abroad is the best dentist ever and charges me ridiculously low rates!
No, it's working so well that kings come here to get treated.
That's funny, that kings abroad come here for the same level of treatment that people who make $50,000 a year roll around naked in. Says something about the state of the rest of the world's medicine, if you ask me.
Funny, I've never known a king who came here for some amoxicillin and a prostate exam.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Funny, I've never known a king who came here for some amoxicillin and a prostate exam.
You should get out more often, meet more kings.
I tried but they were all stuck in hospital waiting rooms :(
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I tried but they were all stuck in hospital waiting rooms :(
Come back to the U.S. then. U.K. hospitals are terrible. Imagine, waiting in chairs for 6 months!
I figured since they were kings, they'd get some sort of hospital throne to sit in.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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