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Is there a reason you cut out the words prior to this quote? You know, the ones where it's clear that he's saying the angels, at the time of judgment, will punish those who didn't obey God? Not that we should take it upon ourselves to do so?

Because there is no account of all the people who have written the Bible having talked to God and received direct instructions on what exactly to put in it. Not consistently, anyway. There definitely is the legend of Mohammed in the cave receiving the word of God and writing it down like he was told. I don't believe that actually happened, but that's the premise under which the Quran is supposed to be understood by believers.

And if you actually read through the Bible, it gets pretty repetitive, anyway. Biblical Hebrew is a fairly limited language in some ways (like how every other sentence actually starts with and/וְ), and good parts of the New Testament haven't even been written by native speakers, so it's not like the whole book is stylistically flawless.

I think there are multiple factors that make me see it that way. Another one is the whole translation issue - it makes being Christian a whole lot easier and I don't see anything wrong with it personally (having to learn a new language just to be able to be religious is a bit over the top), but I've seen how much of the meaning gets lost and shifted and even if it is the word of God, it's really distorted in translation and a lot of the meaning simply can't be transferred, so the whole thing gets a whole lot murkier again.

Your characterization, not mine, but basically, yeah.

Bob, I hope not. I'd be a smoldering pile of ash at the moment.

No intellectual dishonesty here. Simply taken out of context. Sorry about that.

It still doesn't change the fact that it's "follow this worldview or you're going to die and suffer," though. That's not moral.

Edited, May 24th 2011 10:36am by LeWoVoc

Read: "It was a conveniently worded verse that I had no reason to explore further. I'm trying to win an argument here!"

I'm just yankin' yer d:ck.

Is it? I'm not being obtuse, I'm just not sure I've said that.

In one section, sure. But he supposedly wrote on other revelations. The whole book isn't from that one meeting in that one cave, from what I understand.

Again, this is no different from the bible.

Fair enough. Again, though, it's kind of something important to know.

It'd sure be nice to have a little guidance. Then again, I've heard it's about faith.

And we've reached the point of "Agree to disagree."

Bob is my husband. Yeah, he's that good.

So the other day I'm rummaging around in the basement for something and I find my little plaque with all the verses we were to memorize one year in Sunday School. Each verse on my little plaque has a shiny star stuck next to it, denoting my rote success.

I remembered the day I completed that series of verses. I was in the first year k-1 sunday school class. That Sunday I was the first to get all my stars when I recited psalm 23. As soon as I finished, though, I sat down and I wet my pants. This was a big ol' scary church and no one had ever bothered showing me where the bathrooms were and I was small and didn't yet have great control over my bladder. So anyways, ok, I pee in my chair. I'm thinking this isn't a big deal. I've wet my pants before and it was of little consequence. Sunday school is nearly over. I can ignore it til I get home. But noooooo, some missy tattle-tale shouts out to the sunday school teacher that I've wet my pants. The kids all tease me, the teacher scolds me - SCOLDS ME!!, I cry, get teased some more. From then on, come Sunday mornings you'd find me hiding in the garage with my Dad, my god-fearing days over.

Well yeah, but only one is right, duh. After all, what language is the bible written in? American.