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#102 May 17 2011 at 3:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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#103REDACTED, Posted: May 17 2011 at 3:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) bsphil,
#104 May 17 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
I don't need to prove it.
Because you're too lazy or because you know you can't?
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#105 May 17 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh god Varus thinks Seal Team 6 had a live feed. Smiley: laugh
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#106 May 17 2011 at 3:32 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
You keep saying the situation room photo is a fake. Where is your proof of that?


Um... Do you honestly think they allow media into the situation room during a black op, let alone allow them to take pictures? Really?

But since some of you can't engage your own brains to noodle something out, and must instead have someone else hold your hand and tell you what is true, here's the first thing google tells me.

And in case you're wondering why this is relevant. That photo was all over the place in the days after the OBL op. Lots of media types were falling over themselves (as this guy is) to make a huge deal out of it, to show how that photo somehow captured the essence of government in action, etc, etc, etc. So the revelation that the photo was staged after the fact is kinda important. They're not watching for news of the op as was (nearly?) universally captioned with the photo. It was staged after the fact. They were pretending to do whatever it is people think they're doing in that photo.


Did people read what I wrote and actually think that there was no truth to this? I'll point out again, that the caption is attempting to claim that this photo was taken in the white house situation room, during a black op, while those in the room were waiting to hear whether they'd succeeded in getting OBL. Seriously? Nobody's spidey sense went off on that one? The first time I saw the photo I assumed it was a staged picture. I just never thought anyone else would think it was real, so I didn't think it mattered. Apparently, a lot of people are more gullible than even I thought.
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#107 May 17 2011 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
So you don't think pretending to watch something happening live, that you're not actually watching live, for the benefit of the populace is a lie?
lololololol

I bet you get just as outraged watching movies based on a true story because "those are just actors, they're only filming what happened afterward!"
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#108REDACTED, Posted: May 17 2011 at 3:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lolgax,
#109 May 17 2011 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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Its a lot less funny now that gbaji also thinks ST6 had a live feed as well.

Hell, even after reading the story all I got out of it was "He took a dramatic picture." Still fail to see how its an issue now when the same practice hasn't been an issue for, what, four hundred years? Same as the birth certificate.

Edited, May 17th 2011 5:41pm by lolgaxe
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#110 May 17 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
But since some of you can't engage your own brains to noodle something out, and must instead have someone else hold your hand and tell you what is true, here's the first thing google tells me.
That's great, Don Irvine seems to think so on his blog.

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According to the Telegraph, CIA director Leon Panetta admitted that there was no live video footage of the raid as the specially mounted helmet cameras had been cut off.

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In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: “Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn’t know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.

“We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound.”


If that was the case what was the national security team looking at?
Hmmm, very tense moments waiting for the info feeds to come back up... so how is it impossible that they're waiting to get an update on the status of the mission? Or maybe the photograph was taken during a different point in the operation?

It amuses me that the assumption you're relying on is that it was not only taken while info feeds were down, but a significant amount of time after feeds had gone down as opposed to right after.



Edited, May 17th 2011 4:44pm by bsphil
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#111REDACTED, Posted: May 17 2011 at 3:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) http://www.cannotlinkto/staged-white-house-situation-room-photos-part-of-bin-laden-fable/
#112 May 17 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
http://www.cannotlinkto/staged-white-house-situation-room-photos-part-of-bin-laden-fable/
Smiley: lol
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#113 May 17 2011 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your truth is on a page that can't be linked to. The credibility just oozes.

Just out of curiosity, who thinks it was a coincidence, a conspiracy, or actual military wide SOP that the video feeds cut off before ST6 went into the building?

Edited, May 17th 2011 5:53pm by lolgaxe
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#114 May 17 2011 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, every administration in the history of history has lied, faked or staged something, but only now is it relevant?

GG.
#115 May 17 2011 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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So the idea here is that since there was a 20-25min blackout on a mission that spent 40min on the ground, plus the flight time into Pakistan, the downing of a helicopter, the demolition of said helicopter and a swift flight out of Pakistan the photo is a fake? In fact the supposed "evidence" includes Panetta saying that they had observation of the approach into the compound. Likewise, the ever-so-damning CNN caption says they "watch updates on the mission", not "watch OBL killed in real time!" But this all means the photo was staged

Hahahaha... keep buying the tinfoil, Gbaji.
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#116 May 17 2011 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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There does seem to be some consensus in the Real World that the death pictures and Sit-Room pictures were both faked.
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#117 May 17 2011 at 4:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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There does seem to be some consensus in the Real World that the death pictures and Sit-Room pictures were both faked.

You mean the show on MTV?
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#118 May 17 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
There does seem to be some consensus in the Real World that the death pictures and Sit-Room pictures were both faked.

You mean the show on MTV?


It was the biggest conspiracy unraveling since the infamous "Who put their finger in the peanut butter?" debacle.
#119 May 17 2011 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
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There does seem to be some consensus in the Real World that the death pictures and Sit-Room pictures were both faked.

You mean the show on MTV?

Whoops. I forgot that that show even existed. I meant it capitalized as in "what's really going on out there" and not the bizarre alternate universes that crop up in here. Kinda like the show, actually.
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#120 May 17 2011 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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Debalic wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Debalic wrote:
There does seem to be some consensus in the Real World that the death pictures and Sit-Room pictures were both faked.
You mean the show on MTV?
Whoops. I forgot that that show even existed. I meant it capitalized as in "what's really going on out there" and not the bizarre alternate universes that crop up in here. Kinda like the show, actually.
Once again, if you're going to make that claim, back it up with evidence.
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#121 May 17 2011 at 9:16 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, I was looking through a bunch of articles on this, but when I pay attention to what pages I'm on, they're not so hot. I only recognize two links in, say, five pages of Googling, huffpost and drudge. The most definitive thing I could find is that Hilary is actually stifling an allergic cough and doesn't remember what they were looking at the time. Obama, for all I can tell, is just pissed off by the way he looks for being pulled out of bed with Michelle.
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#122 May 17 2011 at 9:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's (one of) the funniest parts of Gbaji & Varus's conspiracy theory. We're supposed to believe that the administration was scrambling to regain public confidence or something after this but the only places you might hear of it are conservative pseudo-news sites and the "Comments" sections of regular news stories where the crazies all hang out.
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#123 May 18 2011 at 12:17 AM Rating: Excellent
This thread makes baby penguins cry

You know what that's like?

They live in Antarctica

It's fing cold down there

Frozen baby penguin tears

is that what you want?

is it?





sidenote: pay attention to what the white house says/releases vs what "journalists" say/assume to punch up a story to make $
#124REDACTED, Posted: May 18 2011 at 7:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nads,
#125 May 18 2011 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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sidenote: pay attention to what the white house says/releases vs what "journalists" say/assume to punch up a story to make $

PROTIP: Hints are to Varus what p'ussy is to a priest - wasted.
#126 May 18 2011 at 8:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Remember all the bruhaha they raised when W staged mission accomplished photo?
I'd be laughing at the Obama picture more if I didn't know not laughing at it makes you and gbaji spaz.

Edited, May 18th 2011 10:15am by lolgaxe
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