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#302 May 25 2011 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
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There are lots of people who still think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union speech regarding Iraq seeking to obtain uranium.
Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?


Yes. Because it's a perfect example of the "first impression" in the media sticking despite later facts showing it to be false. And judging by your reaction, you're still being influenced by that false first impression today. Do you actually think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union address when he claimed that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from Africa? I'm honestly curious if you're one of those who still believes what Wilson said/implied.
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#303 May 25 2011 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
There are lots of people who still think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union speech regarding Iraq seeking to obtain uranium.
Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?


Yes. Because it's a perfect example of the "first impression" in the media sticking despite later facts showing it to be false. And judging by your reaction, you're still being influenced by that false first impression today. Do you actually think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union address when he claimed that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from Africa? I'm honestly curious if you're one of those who still believes what Wilson said/implied.
I don't care about it at all. Never have, and still don't.
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#304 May 25 2011 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
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I don't care about it at all. Never have, and still don't.
I honestly thought the joke about Joe the Plumber was that he was being called Joe the Plumber. I guess the anti-Bush evil liberal media didn't cover it nearly as intensively. More important things to throw conniption fits over. Like birth certificates.
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#305 May 25 2011 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
There are lots of people who still think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union speech regarding Iraq seeking to obtain uranium.
Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?


Yes. Because it's a perfect example of the "first impression" in the media sticking despite later facts showing it to be false. And judging by your reaction, you're still being influenced by that false first impression today. Do you actually think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union address when he claimed that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from Africa? I'm honestly curious if you're one of those who still believes what Wilson said/implied.
I don't care about it at all. Never have, and still don't.


Uh huh. And Pavlov's dogs didn't think bells were a tasty snack either.
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#306 May 25 2011 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:

Uh huh. And Pavlov's dogs didn't think bells were a tasty snack either.
Good thing they didn't, eh?
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#307 May 25 2011 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
There are lots of people who still think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union speech regarding Iraq seeking to obtain uranium.
Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?
Yes. Because it's a perfect example of the "first impression" in the media sticking despite later facts showing it to be false. And judging by your reaction, you're still being influenced by that false first impression today. Do you actually think that Joe Wilson proved that Bush lied in his state of the union address when he claimed that Iraq sought to obtain uranium from Africa? I'm honestly curious if you're one of those who still believes what Wilson said/implied.
I don't care about it at all. Never have, and still don't.
Uh huh. And Pavlov's dogs didn't think bells were a tasty snack either.
Whatever you need to convince yourself of. Just keep telling yourself that not only do people really care about this, but they're misinformed about how they care! Just keep repeating it in your head. It'll stick soon enough.
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#308 May 25 2011 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
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Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
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#309 May 25 2011 at 4:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.

lolirony
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#310 May 25 2011 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
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Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.

lolirony
i dunno Joph, that's an awfully strong reaction to gbaji's post. You must be in denial!!
#311 May 25 2011 at 4:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
lolirony
i dunno Joph, that's an awfully strong reaction to gbaji's post. You must be in denial!!
Silly admin, you're reacting strongly to a post with a strong reaction about a poster reacting strongly.
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#312 May 25 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
That's it, just keep repeating that to yourself. Keep telling yourself it's a big deal, you'll believe it one day and that nagging logic won't be around to tell you otherwise.
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#313 May 25 2011 at 6:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's such a big deal that I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
#314 May 25 2011 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
It's such a big deal that I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Some Joe Wilson thing back 7 years ago or something that nobody but gbaji seems to care about.
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#315 May 25 2011 at 8:28 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
That's it, just keep repeating that to yourself. Keep telling yourself it's a big deal, you'll believe it one day and that nagging logic won't be around to tell you otherwise.


You were the one who choose to respond with "Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?". You sure seemed to have a pretty strong opinion about the issue then.


I'm quite sure you never cared enough about the issue to learn the facts, but that's kinda the point, isn't it? You still reacted as though you *knew* that what I was saying was ridiculous despite that lack of knowledge about the subject itself. Which was precisely the point I was making. People continue to believe things long after the events which put that initial impression into their heads have been completely debunked and disproved. I'm sure you saw all the talk about Joe Wilson and accepted the widely repeated assertions made at the time. And then later, when cooler heads prevailed and the facts came out, and it became obvious that the initial assumptions were wrong, you never noticed.


Why? Because retractions and corrections rarely if ever get significant coverage. So you'll go on believing something that is false long after you should have learned otherwise. You just provided a perfect example of how that happens and exactly why it's important to make a big deal whenever the media does this sort of thing, no matter how minor you may think it is at the time.
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#316 May 25 2011 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
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It's such a big deal that I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Some Joe Wilson thing back 7 years ago or something that nobody but gbaji seems to care about.


The point is that 7 years later, it still gets the same (wrong) knee-jerk reaction. At the risk of repeating myself, that kinda proves the point I'm making about how false media coverage taints the public perception of an event long after the facts are known.

Edited, May 25th 2011 7:31pm by gbaji
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#317 May 25 2011 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
That's it, just keep repeating that to yourself. Keep telling yourself it's a big deal, you'll believe it one day and that nagging logic won't be around to tell you otherwise.
You were the one who choose to respond with "Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?". You sure seemed to have a pretty strong opinion about the issue then.
Nope, never heard of it. No idea if the 7 year figure is right or not, just pulled a random number out of my ***. I found it amusing that you decided to go with that reference because I had never heard of it. I would have imagined you'd pick something more relevant or notable.
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If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
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#318 May 25 2011 at 9:11 PM Rating: Default
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bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
bsphil wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Awfully strong reaction for something you don't care about and have never cared about.
That's it, just keep repeating that to yourself. Keep telling yourself it's a big deal, you'll believe it one day and that nagging logic won't be around to tell you otherwise.
You were the one who choose to respond with "Ahahaha, oh wow. That's the reference you decided to go with?". You sure seemed to have a pretty strong opinion about the issue then.
Nope, never heard of it.


Yeah. I don't believe you. You've never heard of it, but just happened to respond exactly like someone who had heard about it would respond? If you'd never heard of it, why did you assume it was a bad example? Sorry. I'm not buying this at all.
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gbaji wrote:
If you'd never heard of it, why did you assume it was a bad example? Sorry. I'm not buying this at all.

Probably because you didn't just yell out "Joe Wilson!" but made it clear that you were talking about Bush and his pre-war attempts to garner support. You know... stuff from seven years ago.
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#320REDACTED, Posted: May 26 2011 at 8:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nads,
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#322 May 26 2011 at 8:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Food for thought;
You must be starving.
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#324 May 26 2011 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Often depriving oneself can allow them to reach an enlightened state.
Only thing that you could deprive to help you reach an enlightened state would be oxygen. Get to it.
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#325 May 26 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Often depriving oneself can allow them to reach an enlightened state. Try fasting.
You mean malnourishment? Yeah, that's just the brain responding to a critical lack of energy needed to survive.

Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If you'd never heard of it, why did you assume it was a bad example? Sorry. I'm not buying this at all.

Probably because you didn't just yell out "Joe Wilson!" but made it clear that you were talking about Bush and his pre-war attempts to garner support. You know... stuff from seven years ago.
I guess that was more like 8 years ago now.



Edited, May 26th 2011 12:34pm by bsphil
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#326 May 26 2011 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Edited, May 26th 2011 12:34pm by bsphil
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