Me either. No unusual activity on my card, etc.
Still thinking about getting the CC re-issued, though, just 'cause.
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I SERIOUSLY doubt it was an inside job.
If you managed to get all this info, then it means you need to be fairly intelligent (less so from within than without, but still).
If you are smart enough to do that, you are smart enough to realize that this kind of attack is not only incredibly illegal (in the 'going to prison for a long time' sense), but that being one of 200 recently laid off people already puts you on a list of suspects and vastly increases the chances you are caught.
As far as I can tell from what you linked, there's absolutely no reason to suppose the layoffs are anything but coincidence. It doesn't even specify which department they were from.
If you managed to get all this info, then it means you need to be fairly intelligent (less so from within than without, but still).
If you are smart enough to do that, you are smart enough to realize that this kind of attack is not only incredibly illegal (in the 'going to prison for a long time' sense), but that being one of 200 recently laid off people already puts you on a list of suspects and vastly increases the chances you are caught.
As far as I can tell from what you linked, there's absolutely no reason to suppose the layoffs are anything but coincidence. It doesn't even specify which department they were from.
IDrownFish wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
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Does it count if the accounts haven't been active for, oh, say, a few months to a few years? I can't even remember how many individual accounts I have between my wife and me...
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
What do you mean, "does it count"? Assuming whatever card you used is still active, there might be some risk.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
The cards they lost were all from before 2008, if I remember correctly. If you have a card that has yet to expire, that you used for one of those accounts from before then, then yes--it matters. Otherwise, your card info is (according to Sony) safe. And regardless, they did not get the security codes for the cards.
They still have all your personal info for those accounts, though. Well, maybe not all--Sony has never said what the scope of the hack actually was. But you should assume they do have it, if you have accounts with them (either PSN or SOE).
They still have all your personal info for those accounts, though. Well, maybe not all--Sony has never said what the scope of the hack actually was. But you should assume they do have it, if you have accounts with them (either PSN or SOE).
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
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idiggory wrote:
The cards they lost were all from before 2008, if I remember correctly. If you have a card that has yet to expire, that you used for one of those accounts from before then, then yes--it matters. Otherwise, your card info is (according to Sony) safe. And regardless, they did not get the security codes for the cards.
They still have all your personal info for those accounts, though. Well, maybe not all--Sony has never said what the scope of the hack actually was. But you should assume they do have it, if you have accounts with them (either PSN or SOE).
They still have all your personal info for those accounts, though. Well, maybe not all--Sony has never said what the scope of the hack actually was. But you should assume they do have it, if you have accounts with them (either PSN or SOE).
http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6573427-sony-online-entertainment-hacked-some-credit-card-info-taken
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Sony has announced that, in addition to the PlayStation Network breach, hackers have entered the company’s Sony Online Entertainment servers. Intruders not only gained access to personal data from almost 25 million customer accounts — among them players of the long-running online PC game "EverQuest" — but have also likely stolen more than 23,000 credit card numbers and bank account numbers.
Edited, May 4th 2011 10:34pm by DSD
Everything I'm reading about the CC info (including DSD's link) is saying older Euro cards. Not current US cards.
Reading's hard, DSD. :/ From the link you provided:
I mean, it's one thing if your link actually supports your argument. But that was practically gbaji levels. And I say "practically" because it was at least from this decade, and about this topic... Okay, so it wasn't like gbaji at all. Still pretty bad though.
Quote:
To be clear, Sony Online Entertainment says there is no evidence that their main credit card database was compromised. However, Sony admitted that some credit card numbers and bank account numbers from European customers held on an oudated database may have been obtained in this newly discovered SOE breach.
Customers outside the United States should be advised that we further discovered evidence that information from an outdated database from 2007 containing approximately 12,700 non-US customer credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes) and about 10,700 direct debit records listing bank account numbers of certain customers in Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain may have also been obtained. We will be notifying each of those customers promptly.
Customers outside the United States should be advised that we further discovered evidence that information from an outdated database from 2007 containing approximately 12,700 non-US customer credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes) and about 10,700 direct debit records listing bank account numbers of certain customers in Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain may have also been obtained. We will be notifying each of those customers promptly.
I mean, it's one thing if your link actually supports your argument. But that was practically gbaji levels. And I say "practically" because it was at least from this decade, and about this topic... Okay, so it wasn't like gbaji at all. Still pretty bad though.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
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DSD wrote:
Quote:
According to online reports, Sony had fired ~200 employees from SOE a few days before the PSN massive attack which led to the compromise of user personal information. A 2 week notice was handed out on March 31st, 2011 which gave whomever enough time to think, plan and act on the PSN attack – and would have all the clearance to easily to do it . Whats even worse is that if it DID turn out to be a inside job then the ex-employee could potentially have the tools to un-hash the stolen passwords and possibly even have the tools/resources to decrypt the important information such as your credit card numbers
My understanding (a co-workers wife worked at SOE and literally switched jobs a week before the layoffs and was pissed cause if she'd waited she could have gotten some severance cash) was that the people they laid off were basically design folks for DC-online. These are the people who do artwork, story writing, dialog, etc. Basically a bunch of stuff you need a lot of people for when first designing a game, but not so many to maintain after release. The big deal with this was that it suggested that SOE is not planning on designing any new games for the time being (else they would have been shifted to new projects instead).
Those people do not have access to accounts, or servers, or programming, or really anything at all. That's not to say some disgruntled employee couldn't have been behind this, but it isn't likely that it was one of that particular group.
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Nadenu wrote:
Everything I'm reading about the CC info (including DSD's link) is saying older Euro cards. Not current US cards.
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idiggory wrote:
Reading's hard, DSD. :/ From the link you provided:
I mean, it's one thing if your link actually supports your argument. But that was practically gbaji levels. And I say "practically" because it was at least from this decade, and about this topic... Okay, so it wasn't like gbaji at all. Still pretty bad though.
Quote:
To be clear, Sony Online Entertainment says there is no evidence that their main credit card database was compromised. However, Sony admitted that some credit card numbers and bank account numbers from European customers held on an oudated database may have been obtained in this newly discovered SOE breach.
Customers outside the United States should be advised that we further discovered evidence that information from an outdated database from 2007 containing approximately 12,700 non-US customer credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes) and about 10,700 direct debit records listing bank account numbers of certain customers in Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain may have also been obtained. We will be notifying each of those customers promptly.
Customers outside the United States should be advised that we further discovered evidence that information from an outdated database from 2007 containing approximately 12,700 non-US customer credit or debit card numbers and expiration dates (but not credit card security codes) and about 10,700 direct debit records listing bank account numbers of certain customers in Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain may have also been obtained. We will be notifying each of those customers promptly.
I mean, it's one thing if your link actually supports your argument. But that was practically gbaji levels. And I say "practically" because it was at least from this decade, and about this topic... Okay, so it wasn't like gbaji at all. Still pretty bad though.
I wasnt disagreeing you, you idjiot, I was merely providing what info I saw after I saw your post :p
That's fine, but your info was still wrong at worst and out of context at best. ;)
And an update:
PSN is still down and Sony says the attack was a "highly sophisticated criminal cyber-attack designed to steal personal and credit card information for illegal purposes."
Some other tidbits from statements:
"However, we want to be very clear that we will only restore operations when we believe that the network is secure."
Q: "How is the SOE intrusion related to the PSN/Qriocity intrusion? Was this a second attack on SOE?"
A: "While the two systems are distinct and operated separately, given that they are both under the Sony umbrella, there is some degree of overlap in design. The attacks were similar in nature. This is NOT a second attack; new information has been discovered as part of our ongoing investigation into the criminal attack in April."
"Essentially the perpetrators used sophisticated means not only to access the data, but also to cover their tracks. We committed to continue the investigation and in doing so, uncovered further information that we did not have when we initially believed the data was not stolen."
And an update:
PSN is still down and Sony says the attack was a "highly sophisticated criminal cyber-attack designed to steal personal and credit card information for illegal purposes."
Some other tidbits from statements:
"However, we want to be very clear that we will only restore operations when we believe that the network is secure."
Q: "How is the SOE intrusion related to the PSN/Qriocity intrusion? Was this a second attack on SOE?"
A: "While the two systems are distinct and operated separately, given that they are both under the Sony umbrella, there is some degree of overlap in design. The attacks were similar in nature. This is NOT a second attack; new information has been discovered as part of our ongoing investigation into the criminal attack in April."
"Essentially the perpetrators used sophisticated means not only to access the data, but also to cover their tracks. We committed to continue the investigation and in doing so, uncovered further information that we did not have when we initially believed the data was not stolen."
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
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I don't really like this one either, so feel free to kick his *** as well, D.
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Posted: May 05 2011 at 10:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Good thing I don't play video games.
Then how the hell did you find your way to this forum?
IDrownFish wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
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You have to assume there is any truth in anything he posts first.
Edited, May 5th 2011 1:05pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 5th 2011 1:05pm by lolgaxe
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
I don't really like this one either, so feel free to kick his *** as well, D.
/insert :premium laughing smiley:
varusword75 wrote:
Probably because when I started posting here 7yrs ago I did play eq. You really aren't to bright are you?
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You should really read a little more on this topic, as EQ is something this hacking theft relates to.
I lol'd.
Varus, they still have all your personal info. Not a CC if you bought game cards, but your name, address, email, phone number, etc.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
None of this would have happened if Obama was born in America.
And it's clearly a side effect of his administration faking Osama's death. They just shut down PSN so that more people would pay attention to his announcement.
IDrownFish wrote:
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varusword75 wrote:
So when you buy batteries at radio shack you actually give them your phone#?
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