Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilitai wrote:
Why do you not understand that a singularity is not "nothing"? This is the same wilful ignorance of current understanding of Physics as you have in Biology.
Here when you say "something from nothing", you're either referring to 1) The big bang theory, or 2) abiogenesis. I'd like you to clarify which one, if you'd be so kind.
Here when you say "something from nothing", you're either referring to 1) The big bang theory, or 2) abiogenesis. I'd like you to clarify which one, if you'd be so kind.
Whichever means that there once was nothing and then under some circumstances, something happened. Look, we've had this argument before. People have sourced "particles that come from nothing" and even in their source it states there must be certain conditions. There is no way around it. Something had to come from nothing, period. If you don't want to accept it, fine that's you, just don't come attacking me like I'm saying something wrong
You're going wrong by assuming something had to come from nothing. That's where you're saying something wrong.
In the beginning there was a singularity. Due to quantum fluctuations within this singularity it started to expand. As it expanded space expanded with it and entropy began to take effect. Entropy is what makes the arrow of time flow forwards. This is why time began when expansion started.
There's a lot of information about this now. Continually saying "something can't come from nothing" is an argument from ignorance, when the only person saying there was nothing is you. The only thing that had to come from nothing, was your notion of a supreme being. Why is it okay for that being to come from nothing?
Edited, Apr 24th 2011 8:30pm by Nilatai
So clear my ignorance by further explaining this "singularity" and how it isn't something that came from nothing. Where did this "singularity" come from and how was it able to expand?
Bsphil wrote:
What are the other reasons?
I'm not proposing answers, I'm proposing questions.
I'm not proposing answers, I'm proposing questions.
Why are you so concerned on my reason of believing?
1. It's the most logical explanation for me
2. It creates a better life style and better environment if followed as intended.
The second one can be broken down into further sub categories, but that is the overall theme.
DSD wrote:
Nope! You defended yourself by using this mentality. Im just pointing it out in case you were ignorant on how you come across to others. Kind of like how we originally started this whole discussion ;)
Serious question? Are you trolling or being serious? If you are trolling, I'll concede that you got me.
I have a personal opinion that the belief of a higher being is more logical than "something came from nothing but it really didn't come from nothing". I kept that opinion to myself. I was asked why I believe and do what I do, I gave the above statement as my answer.
I did not create a "us vs them" environment, other posters did by asking my why I believe what I believe instead of just accepting it and moving on. Till now, I haven't asked anyone why the believe what they believe, because I don't care. That's their beliefs. These posters are merely questioning me in an attempt to show how "I'm wrong for not believing their beliefs". Yet, you continuously attack me for creating this environment. How come you haven't said anything to them?