Nilatai wrote:
Nah sorry, it's not just her foetus, after all, it takes two gametes to form a zygote. That does not change the fact that it's her body. Do you know what "non-sequitur" means? (:
Oh! So, now you're differentiating the fetus from her body? It's not HER fetus now, but their fetus?
Nilatai wrote:
Nah, you just don't use words in their right context.
I like how your replies are getting shorter though, keep that up.
Really? Just admit that you were wrong. Even if my words were in the wrong context (which they weren't) that only means that you were wrong on my knowledge of math and science.
Belkira wrote:
But no... it really isn't.
How not? They are both equally charged with the responsibility of raising the child. Each parent is doing different things to make that a success.
Belkira wrote:
No... it doesn't.
You just admitted the connection in your prior post.
Belkira wrote:
I have to be honest, I'm not sure what you're asking me here. They're "just as close of the two that you can get?" Wha...?
I dislike both of your "options" because in the first case, the child suffers because the father doesn't pay child support. In the second case, abortions are restricted.
Meaning just that. In those two scenarios, it is about as fair as you can get, but you have reasons against them. So, you can't simply say "oh, it can't ever be fair", you just have arguments against solutions that would make it fair or as fair as it can get.
Majivo wrote:
On an unrelated note to anything else happening, Alma, please quit citing your (alleged) comp sci degree as though it somehow makes you an expert in how physical sciences work. The fact that it has the world "science" in it is not related to the scientific method - at least not the parts of comp sci that you work on.
That was my point, thanks for stating that. Even if I were wrong on his accusation of the scientific terminology, that doesn't make me an idiot of ALL sciences. A geologist probably wouldn't be able to hold a conversation in Biology, but that doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about science.
Belkira wrote:
Yeah, that's what me an Nilatai thought Alma was getting at, too. Apparently, he doesn't think the father should have any say whatsoever in the abortion part, just that he should be able to never pay child support.
I know, it's confusing.
I didn't know English was that confusing. I presented two one sentence scenarios. You read them with predetermined thoughts of my argument. It happens all of the time on this forum. Nilatai and you have yet provided me a sentence that even implied that a man should have a say-so in the matter. If you provide a "confusing" sentence, then I'll concede to your accusations. Until then, I'm not going to apologize for your lack of comprehension.
My personal opinion on the man's opinion is still unformed, but that has no matter with the argument of equal responsibility.
Belkira wrote:
For the record, I do believe that the father should have a say in the decision whether or not to abort. I think that's the right thing to do.
By that, you mean able to physically talk and express their opinion? Or do you mean actually having legal right to deny or attempt to deny an abortion?