Oh, lots to say here...
Varus wrote:
And people running for president should have the expectation that what they've done in college or as a lawmaker should be open to the public for scrutiny. The fact is you don't want to know anything about the man you've elected because you don't work in the private sector and really don't care about how his actions are affecting the majority of the populace.
I don't hold politicians to a higher standard because they are people just like me. No one should have to have every thing they've ever done or said during their entire lives analysed and criticised. I don't make the connection between one's personal life and their public life. Hell, despite my hatred of his politicial stance and decisions, I would gladly drink a beer with W(if he drank). He's just a man. So is Obama, so come off it.
Varus wrote:
Perhaps you should spend some more time in college learning what the word 'expectation' means.
ex·pec·ta·tion   
[ek-spek-tey-shuhn]
–noun
1. the act or the state of expecting: to wait in expectation.
2. the act or state of looking forward or anticipating.
3. an expectant mental attitude: a high pitch of expectation.
4. something expected; a thing looked forward to.
5. Often, expectations. a prospect of future good or profit: to have great expectations.
6. the degree of probability that something will occur: There is little expectation that he will come.
7. Statistics . mathematical expectation.
8. the state of being expected: a large sum of money in expectation.
And I didn't even have to go to college to be able to know what expectation means before I looked for a definition to copy/paste.
Varus wrote:
If that were the case it would have served him better to have released them the first time around. What does he gain by having his birth certificate, or certificat of live birth, released? The people who don't believe he's american probably weren't going to vote for him anyway. The only thing that could happen is if he turned out to be not a citizen that could hurt him with the independents. Fact is Obama will never lose the support of democrats regardless of what he does or who he is.
Unfortunately he won't lose the support of the democrats because people will vote the party line no matter who's running. This is the problem with partisanship.
Varus wrote:
Not likely. Independents know that if the "birthers" havn't given up for the last 5yrs they're not likely to anytime soon. They also know Obama can end all this with one phone call. Unless of course you're like Joph and think Obama perpetuating this division is actually good for Obama.
Hell, Obama could literally walk up to a "birther" and literally rub his Birth Certificate all over their face, and they still wouldn't give up. No one ever said idiots were logical, they're just idiots.
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Oh and saying your independent means nothing. What you say tells us everything we need to know about your political views. And generally speaking someone who mentions Nixon with such disdain tend to lean to the left.
I actually feel that aside from the Watergate thing, Nixon had a good run and is seen as a terrible president without any regard for the rest of his time as President.