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Was there ever a question that NPR is just an extension of the Democrat party and liberalism in general?
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varusword75 wrote:
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Was there ever a question that NPR is just an extension of the Democrat party and liberalism in general?
Was there ever a question that NPR is just an extension of the Democrat party and liberalism in general?
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
Was there ever a question that NPR is just an extension of the Democrat party and liberalism in general?
Yes, yes there is. Its just that both NPR and liberalism appeal to intelligent people with a desire to help others. Not to greedy, self-serving, fearful, xenophobic, racist, ignorant cUnts. So, I can see why you wouldn't like either.
Also, you're an idiot.
Edited, Mar 9th 2011 11:23am by Deathwysh
From what I could tell, the executive who made the remarks had already left NPR for some think tank or another. Vivian Schiller was thrown under the bus by the Board of Directors to try and appease forthcoming critics as they argue for continued funding. Aside from being in a plum position to make into a sacrificial lamb, I can't see what V. Schiller did wrong.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
I can't see what V. Schiller did wrong.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
What, no criticisms about O'Keefe, paragon of Creepy Disingenuous Fuckers?
Sweetums wrote:
What, no criticisms about O'Keefe, paragon of Creepy Disingenuous Fuckers?
Goes without saying. More chopped up video with a misleading header (grossly overstating the amount of federal funding NPR receives). Won't stop the usual suspects from ************ furiously over it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
What, no criticisms about O'Keefe, paragon of Creepy Disingenuous Fuckers?
Goes without saying. More chopped up video with a misleading header (grossly overstating the amount of federal funding NPR receives). Won't stop the usual suspects from ************ furiously over it.
Jophiel wrote:
From what I could tell, the executive who made the remarks had already left NPR for some think tank or another.
He had not already left when he made the remarks though. He planned to leave after the video was shot (which was just 2-3 weeks ago), but now the offer he was considering has been withdrawn. Bit of desperate spin though, isn't it? It's not like it changes the fact of this guys extremely biased opinions while working as an executive at NPR.
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Vivian Schiller was thrown under the bus by the Board of Directors to try and appease forthcoming critics as they argue for continued funding. Aside from being in a plum position to make into a sacrificial lamb, I can't see what V. Schiller did wrong.
She didn't. She's been following the policy of NPR. What is "wrong" is that policy. But the folks on the board can't admit that, so they'll toss her out instead. The reality is that the views expressed by Schiller (the other one) are exactly in line with the typical views of the people who control the programming at NPR.
They're also inline with the views of most of the liberal posters on this board, so it's not like what I'm saying should even be in contention. Imagine if you guys were in charge of programming at NPR. Can't you see that conservatives might just not feel like their tax dollars should be spent helping you spread your opinions while suppressing theirs?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
He had not already left when he made the remarks though. He planned to leave after the video was shot (which was just 2-3 weeks ago), but now the offer he was considering has been withdrawn. Bit of desperate spin though, isn't it? It's not like it changes the fact of this guys extremely biased opinions while working as an executive at NPR.
What spin? My point was that, since the guy who made the remarks was no longer at NPR, the Board had to decide on a different person (and unrelated) to throw under the bus.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
gbaji wrote:
Can't you see that conservatives might just not feel like their tax dollars should be spent helping you spread your opinions while suppressing theirs?
Have you ever even listened to NPR?
Deathwysh wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Can't you see that conservatives might just not feel like their tax dollars should be spent helping you spread your opinions while suppressing theirs?
It's obvious...
Edited, Mar 9th 2011 2:43pm by bsphil
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
If no one debated with me, then I wouldn't post here anymore.
gbaji wrote:
I'm not getting my news from anywhere Joph.
gbaji wrote:
The reality is that the views expressed by Schiller (the other one) are exactly in line with the typical views of the people who control the programming at NPR.
As a frequent NPR listener I was pretty shocked, as shocked as I can be over political gossip, that Schiller said what he said. For the record, I don't agree him. Clearly the guy was playing the part of a salesman and saying what his mark wanted to hear. Also for the record I've praised the tea-party for their grassroots efforts (right here on this forum).
Btw, most of npr's programming is not political in nature.
Edited, Mar 9th 2011 10:01pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Islamofascists are allllllll about 'Jazz Profiles', Elinda.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Islamofascists are allllllll about 'Jazz Profiles', Elinda.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
varusword75 wrote:
Intelligent people have money and wealth.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
varusword75 wrote:
Deathy,
I listen to NPR and steveinski every morning. Usually when I'm tending to my plants. I don't know if you know this but plants really do like classical. If they were to just stick to non-political programs like the morning concert I wouldn't have a problem with them receiving federal tax dollars.
I listen to NPR and steveinski every morning. Usually when I'm tending to my plants. I don't know if you know this but plants really do like classical. If they were to just stick to non-political programs like the morning concert I wouldn't have a problem with them receiving federal tax dollars.
Wait, you mean that people/organizations that receive money from the government should stay out of politics? Man, those oil companies are really sucky then.
varusword75 wrote:
Techno,
Yes. Just like I think people who receive welfare shouldn't be able to vote I think corporations that receive govn funding shouldn't be able to use that funding to support political candidates or parties. Is that so difficult to understand?
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Wait, you mean that people/organizations that receive money from the government should stay out of politics?
Yes. Just like I think people who receive welfare shouldn't be able to vote I think corporations that receive govn funding shouldn't be able to use that funding to support political candidates or parties. Is that so difficult to understand?
But what about farmers and oil companies?
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
varusword75 wrote:
Yes. Just like I think people who receive welfare shouldn't be able to vote I think corporations that receive govn funding shouldn't be able to use that funding to support political candidates or parties. Is that so difficult to understand?
Funny then that you spend so much time whining about people on welfare voting and yet zero time whining about corporations that get federal monies being politically active.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
varusword75 wrote:
Yes. Just like I think people who receive welfare shouldn't be able to vote I think corporations that receive govn funding shouldn't be able to use that funding to support political candidates or parties. Is that so difficult to understand?
Funny then that you spend so much time whining about people on welfare voting and yet zero time whining about corporations that get federal monies being politically active.
(Devil's advocate)
However, people on welfare > people directly benefiting from government subsidies for oil and/or farms. Ergo in a democratic system this constitutes an unfair advantage for the party perceived as more pro-welfare.
(/Devil's Advocate)
And then there are the ads, the spin, and the fact the fact that the electoral college, not the actual vote, decides presidential elections.
See? I can see both sides!
Deathwysh wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Can't you see that conservatives might just not feel like their tax dollars should be spent helping you spread your opinions while suppressing theirs?
Have you ever even listened to NPR?
Of course I have. I do have liberal friends, you know. I'm a lot more laid back politically in real life than I am on this forum. Honestly, my political positions on this forum started more as a "I'll play devils advocate and challenge people's assumptions", and I was somewhat surprised to find just how strongly people objected to this. It wasn't even about what I was saying, but the very fact that I didn't agree with them automatically and without question that seemed to get them upset. You haven't noticed that I very rarely start threads, but instead look for statements or ideas expressed by others that I think need to be questioned and question them?
Anyway. The point is that I have listened to NPR, and while it's a hell of a lot less obvious about their liberal slant than say Air America was (which btw, was the first political talk radio I ever listened to), the constant and continuous liberal bias in nearly everything that is said on that station is evident to anyone who hasn't been completely acclimated to it. Everything from the choice of topics, to the views presented, to even the language choices and labels used when speaking about a given topic, lends itself to a liberal viewpoint. They don't hit you over the head with it, but it's absolutely there.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Elinda wrote:
gbaji wrote:
The reality is that the views expressed by Schiller (the other one) are exactly in line with the typical views of the people who control the programming at NPR.
Of course they're relevant. They "control programming". They get to control what topics get discussed, and who discusses them, and who's even on the payroll to discuss topics, and a hundred other aspects of programming that can vastly impact how it's perceived by the public.
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As a frequent NPR listener I was pretty shocked, as shocked as I can be over political gossip, that Schiller said what he said.
Here's the thing. I'm not even a little shocked. I would not be shocked to find that most of the executives working for NPR, as well as most of the employees and affiliates hold similar views, and if they thought they were talking to someone within that same mindset-circle, would express them just as he did. Why is that? Because as a conservative, I've been seeing this trend in media for decades now. It's not surprising to me because I see the subtle hints of that mindset every single day. I see its effects in the form of ideas expressed by the public, and on this forum.
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Btw, most of npr's programming is not political in nature.
Correct. But every single bit of it that is slants pretty far liberal. The problem is that most media has gradually slanted left such that most people don't even realize it. I suspect that if more people took their own advice and exposed themselves to ideas other than those they hear on their existing media sources, they might just realize how biased what they've been listening to all these years really is. Maybe.
And then they wouldn't be shocked when they hear an NPR exec say the kinds of things Schiller said.
Edited, Mar 9th 2011 4:28pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Honestly, my political positions on this forum started more as a "I'll play devils advocate and challenge people's assumptions"...
...and from there went to batshit insane Republican ideologue.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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