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Seems that so far my record for identifying the undereducated is holding strong.



And what's that? That people who are obviously unintelligent and/or undereducated shouldn't go around saying dumb **** constantly while acting like they have some superior understanding of the world's ways? Offensive, I'll grant you-- it was intentional. Snobbish, arguably. Stupid, only if I was pointing out something that was so obvious that it didn't need to be said.

@gbaji; Just a 4-year program accredited by a nationally recognized accreditation agency. I won't even give you a hard time about whether it was some ****** little private/community college. So? Yes? No? Don't get me wrong, I've seen some tards graduated from respectable institutions with a bachelors, and I know you don't have a graduate education, but I'm feeling generous.

I wasn't assuming you were uneducated. Just trollin'.



There's nothing inherently inaccurate about seeing someone constantly act like a moron, and thinking, "It's unlikely that this person was smart enough to graduate from college." I could be wrong about my assessment of them (unlikely in this case) or they could have managed to graduate in spite of that, but most people don't. Is your argument that everyone has the aptitude for college? Because obviously that's not true. If your point is that I should have said, "graduate" instead of "attend," then you missed the hyperbole, but technically you're right.

Further, intelligence is merely a measure of potential, so to be dismissive about an opportunity to realize that potential (getting an education) is the height of stupidity in my book. There are plenty of intelligent dumbasses out there who squandered their potential. I'll take an average intellect with a desire for education over one of them any day, just like I'd take an average computer with a lot of useful information and applications on it over a high spec computer that you can't install anything on.

I've made no secret that I'm completing my doctorate, but I don't give out that much personal information online.

Kachi, I think I speak from all of us, or at least most of us, when I say "This is an intervention".

According to my numbers and textual analysis, Kachi, you are not smarter than Moe. Moe isn't the smartest one on this board, nor is this board renowned for being the most quick witted. As a subset of this site, perhaps. It's not due to a lack of education, nor some lack of technique or enthusiasm. You just don't have the cognitive processing ability to measure up. I'm not making fun of you, nor do I mean you much disrespect, but your logic and rationale are profoundly flawed.

Don't shoot the messenger, but perhaps you should take a step back and reevaluate your position, and form a more rational and circumspect argument? Think through things occasionally? Perhaps to their logical conclusions?

Just a thought.

Good Luck.

Properly preparing for a profession is still valuable. Which is what most people end up wanting to pay for via college. I wouldn't so easily discount a degree if I were you, nor weight it as highly as you appear to weight networking and such, but also not hold it so near and dear as Kachi. Undervaluing is as bad as overvaluing.

If you're educated, but not experienced, then you show an aptitude for the field. This means you should be able to work in this field, but given that you have no experience, I can pay you in peanuts.

If you're experienced, but not educated, it means you should be able to work in the field, but you're going to expect more money to do so. There is however, depending on the field, a good possibility that you're not up to speed on the latest technology/ideas in the field.

Implication is a *****.

If men had to bear the babies, humans would be hangin' with the dinosaurs in the fossil record right now.

I hardly think that you're qualified to speak about every profession that's out there. I agree that it's not necessary for your particular one (I'm in architecture, so I've got a decent enough idea of the building construction industry). But there are plenty of of fields where a formal education helps a ton. Speaking personally, I believe that my education helped me greatly in my creative thinking and ability to express an idea. Good skills to have for design, and ones that are often difficult to cultivate in a typical architect's office. College made it easier to think outside the box, so to speak.

Side note: In my experience, people who didn't attend college always seem to be the ones with a militant opinion about it (with the exception of Kachi, I guess). And they always seem to be in construction.

Working as intended, actually.

And I'm a chick with 36-24-36. Look, it's fun to lie on the internet!

Take a look around some time, dumbass. It's a gaming site's WayOOT board. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is d:ck around time for just about everyone who posts here.

Communications!

HA, there's no way in hell I'm hiring a chemist without a degree. Or a doctor. Or a lawyer. Or an engineer. Or a mathematician.

I don't care how much experience they have.

I can't comment on agriculture and such, because I know nothing about what any jobs they create would entail. Y'know, beyond carrying hay to a truck.

I definitely want anyone doing wiring or plumbing work on my house to be certified. I don't care if they have some kind of degree, but I do care that they've gone through training programs. For basic things, experience is probably more than enough of course. But if I need some kind of large-scale or specific job, I'll need someone who has been taught how to do those large scale jobs. Experience doesn't necessarily provide that.

If you want to be a chef, you don't need to go to school, no. But it's hugely beneficial--you'll learn vastly improved knife skills. You'll learn the chemistry behind flavors/cooking styles. And you'll be exposed to many types of cuisine and ingredients. Experience can take you very, very far in this field. But it's going to be much, much harder for you.

The same is true for those that want to do fashion design--you'll learn different types of seams, lines, fabric-types, etc. And you'll be put in an environment that forces you to focus on style/technique, with the availability of criticism.

You'll want to go to beauty school to learn hair-cutting techniques (along with anything else you want to learn). Many states issue cosmetology licenses following an examination, and it will be much harder without going to school. Especially since you need to hope that whoever taught you knew what they were doing.

There are many, many jobs that don't require a degree--you are right. But of those that don't, there are many that require training of another kind. And some of those remaining are possible without a degree, but vastly easier with education. There are jobs where pure experience is enough, of course. And there are jobs that require none at all.

But experience isn't always enough.