Obama wants to raise gas pricesFollow

No, terrorism is being used by Gbaji as a reason NOT to support high speed rail. He's equating train security to airline security which is flawed on multiple levels, only one of which is that you can't take down buildings with a hijacked train.

Well, he's done more for nuclear energy than any president since Ford.

"Mytho-poetic"? Your word of the day calendar is serving you wrong.

You are quite stupid if you think the oil companies will voluntarily do a massive increase of production simply to lower prices. Remember, they are in this for the massive profits.

Unless you are thinking the government should force them to do so, you lousy socialist!

I don't think the feds do, do they? There are federal environmental, safety, and other regs they'd have to adhere to, but I'm thinking refinery siting would the decision of the state and local folks - the backyarders:D

Arguably, that bottle of repackaged tap water you bought with lunch is extremely overpriced.

Arguably, the bottle, which of course, is made of oil, (and transported to the outlet using more oil) is, rather than the water itself, what people are buying. If they wanted a drink of water, it comes out of taps, whereas walking around with the bottle is what people want to do. Until they throw it into a landfill of course.

Its a good job that oil, like everything else on the planet, is infinate, otherwise we'd really be fUcked.

The obvious problem here is that we are converting our gasoline into single use containers for water (and anything else we care to wrap in several layers of packaging).

And while it may not be economically viable atm to convert plastic to fuel, I foresee a time in the future when landfill mining will become a major industry.

Holy F-ing hell you guys are obtuse!


The shoebomber was not trying to hijack a plane and use it as a weapon. Neither was the underwear bomber. It's amazing that I made this exact same point in my last post, but instead you zeroed in on the whole "trains can jump their tracks and smash into things" side comment. Talk about blinders!


The point I was making was that Biden talked about one of the advantages of rail being that it doesn't take so long to board, he specifically mentioned not having to take off your shoes. He was directly referencing that type of security measures we have on planes, but those security measures have nothing to do with flying planes into buildings. Please tell me you guys aren't this slow.


If sufficient numbers of Americans traveled by rail, then that would be the primary target for terrorism. Do I have to spell this out for you with crayon? Using planes as weapons themselves was a nice one time bonus for the 9/11 attackers. But their objective is terror. They'll use trains as a convenient means of bottling a bunch of people into a small space to randomly kill them just as happily as planes. Arguing that terrorists wont do this because they haven't yet is the same kind of mistake as that made in the years leading up to 9/11.