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#1 Feb 17 2011 at 2:04 AM Rating: Good
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I have been watching the Muzzie unrest across the Middle East and Iran with interest since it began in Tunisia last month and a common thread appears to Google's participation as a vehicle or vector in those events. There have been a number of other incidents or circumstances of late which seem to tie Google to the government as a direct or indirect agent for the furtherment of its' goals or policies.

At the risk of sounding tin foil hatted, it would be an extremely efficient and effective method for monitoring individuals' and group's electronic conversations, communications, and data storage. I daresay that avoiding Google is nigh to impossible now barring a complete disconnect from the internet.

Has this occured to anyone else as of late?

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#2 Feb 17 2011 at 2:11 AM Rating: Good
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#3 Feb 17 2011 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
No it's not. I really doubt that the Goverment has any control over it.
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Google Inc. is an American multinational public corporation invested in Internet search, cloud computing, and advertising technologies. Google hosts and develops a number of Internet-based services and products, and generates profit primarily from advertising through its AdWords program. The company was founded by Larry Page and Sergey Brin, often dubbed the "Google Guys", while the two were attending Stanford University as Ph.D. candidates. It was first incorporated as a privately held company on September 4, 1998, and its initial public offering followed on August 19, 2004. At that time Larry Page, Sergey Brin, and Eric Schmidt agreed to work together at Google for twenty years, until the year 2024. The company's stated mission from the outset was "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful", and the company's unofficial slogan – coined by Google engineer Paul Buchheit – is "Don't be evil". In 2006, the company moved to their current headquarters in Mountain View, California.

Google runs over one million servers in data centers around the world,and processes over one billion search requests and about twenty-four petabytes of user-generated data every day. Google's rapid growth since its incorporation has triggered a chain of products, acquisitions, and partnerships beyond the company's core web search engine. The company offers online productivity software, such as its Gmail email software, and social networking tools, including Orkut and, more recently, Google Buzz. Google's products extend to the desktop as well, with applications such as the web browser Google Chrome, the Picasa photo organization and editing software, and the Google Talk instant messaging application. Notably, Google leads the development of the Android mobile phone operating system, used on a number of phones such as the Nexus One and Motorola Droid. Alexa lists the main U.S.-focused google.com site as the Internet's most visited website, and numerous international Google sites (google.co.in, google.co.uk etc.) are in the top hundred, as are several other Google-owned sites such as YouTube, Blogger, and Orkut. Google is also BrandZ's most powerful brand in the world. The dominant market position of Google's services has led to criticism of the company over issues including privacy, copyright, and censorship.

#4 Feb 17 2011 at 2:49 AM Rating: Good
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Sure. And I get that if our Federal Overlords were to do something like what I have imagined, they'd have given themselves enough space and deniability (sp?) to distance themselves from such an entity. So let' look at it another way: Perhaps Google, in order to operate without much government, umm, interference or regulation, agreed to provide said government certain valuable access to information otherwise inaccessable to it.

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#5 Feb 17 2011 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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It could be the proto-Skynet too. Just sayin.

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#6 Feb 17 2011 at 7:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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The information clampdown in Egypt had much more to do with routers than browsers or search engines.

I guess it's not sexy to point the finger at Cisco, though.

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#7 Feb 17 2011 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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I guess it's not sexy to point the finger at Cisco, though.

I knew a girl at Cisco once that was very fun to put fingers in.

I mean point a finger at.
#8 Feb 17 2011 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
Sure. And I get that if our Federal Overlords were to do something like what I have imagined, they'd have given themselves enough space and deniability (sp?) to distance themselves from such an entity...

At which point it's on the tinfoil hat wearer to prove such allegations, not the on the observer to keep saying "No, it's just a company".
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#9 Feb 17 2011 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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There have been a number of other incidents or circumstances of late which seem to tie Google to the government as a direct or indirect agent for the furtherment of its' goals or policies.
Such as?

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#10 Feb 17 2011 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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No. The US govt is a Google entity.
#11 Feb 17 2011 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought all the unrest in the ME was fueled by Twitter and Facebook, not Google.
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#12 Feb 17 2011 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
No. The US govt is a Google entity.
#13 Feb 17 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
No. The US govt is a Google entity.


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#14 Feb 17 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:
It could be the proto-Skynet too. Just sayin.
Nah, that's too busy winning on Jeopardy.
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#15 Feb 17 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I find it interesting that people assign human wants to what would be a machine intelligence. Why, for example, would a true AI have any interest whatsoever in taking over the world.
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Yodabunny wrote:
Why, for example, would a true AI have any interest whatsoever in taking over the world.

Chicks.
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Jophiel wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
Why, for example, would a true AI have any interest whatsoever in taking over the world.

Chicks.
A lesser AI than Watson would assume you were talking about a baby bird.

...maybe you are??
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#18 Feb 17 2011 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
I find it interesting that people assign human wants to what would be a machine intelligence. Why, for example, would a true AI have any interest whatsoever in taking over the world.
If it's programmed to take over the world...it kind of has to.
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#19 Feb 17 2011 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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I'm too lazy to ummm, Google the various connections and circumstances surrounding a hand-in-glove relationship between them, but just for quick anecdotal evidence, the head Google dude in Egypt was instrumental in fomenting unrest. There have been other stories of Google collecting information about individuals and groups which, if shared, would give the recipient of such information a great deal of leverage or advantage over them.

More interestingly-- at least in terms of the "meh" reaction I am seeing here --is why many of you are rather blase about a private company collecting such information about you and yet are very uncomfortable about government doing so.

While I obviously have no direct evidence of it, I would find it quite remarkable that our government would not utilize the capabilities of companies like Google in some fashion or form. The clear advantage of doing so is far too enticing for an entity whose unstated goal is complete and unfettered power.

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Totem wrote:
I'm too lazy to ummm, Google the various connections...

Use Bing!


Or Ask.com?
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#21 Feb 17 2011 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
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Totem wrote:
I'm too lazy to ummm, Google the various connections...

Use Bing!


Or Ask.com?


Yahoo?
#22 Feb 17 2011 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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#23 Feb 17 2011 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Totem wrote:
I'm too lazy to ummm, Google the various connections...

Use Bing!


Or Ask.com?


Yahoo?


Psh...





Altavista.
#24 Feb 17 2011 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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You mean there's more to Altavista than Babelfish?
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#26 Feb 17 2011 at 8:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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You mean there's more to Altavista than Babelfish?


Sure. That's where you look up software cracks and ****.
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