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This is fun. I'll play semantics with you, gbaji.

Firstly, I accused you of committing a form of rape. You've been constantly posting about how broadly defined that term is. You've said that liberal feminists consider rape to be when a man gives you a drink and you have sex with him and regret it later. Now, I don't think you'd argue against me being a liberal feminist, so could it be that I was merely insinuating that you've bought a drink for a girl you've ******* and she regretted it later? Is that something to get so butthurt about that you throw out lawsuit threats?

Secondly, I said varus thinks about it on a regular basis, because he posts violent things about women. Now, regardless if he means them, he is still using his tiny little brain to formulate these posts, so he is thinking about it.

Now, the question is, since Kao's been played a chump in gbaji's grand trolling scheme, is there going to be any repercussions to him? To quote you:



... which I believe is what you have done to me. In fact, it has occurred a few times before that me AND my husband have been threatened with a lawsuit over a post on an internet forum with a subtitle "no holds barred". If that isn't harassment, what is?

What she said wasn't satire. Moran!

Guenny. That wasn't an apology. An apology would be like "Gee gbaji. You're right, that was uncalled for. I'm sorry. I didn't intend to suggest that you had violated any form of sexual assault laws and retract the statement".

See how easy that is? Heck. Even if you'd just said that you miss wrote it and didn't mean it to come off that way, I'd be fine with it. Can you even meet me halfway here?

Sounds like that could end up being a slippery slope.

Well, more like "huh"? Sometimes, someone says something so completely bizarre that it defies argument. It just has to be left as the utterly absurd thing it is. Moe's statement is one of those times.

10/10

Understand this. If Gbaji were at this point to pay the money for a lawyer and persue a defamation claim against yourself and Barkingturtle, with all the text on the table, what he said, what you said, etc. He would win. Regardless of what you think about him, his views or how distasteful you might find them, you have entered that area of communication where if the other person felt strongly enough, they could sue you for a significant amount of money and would easily win that lawsuit. This isn't "i think Person X might be a jerk" This isn't even "Person X is a jerk" This is "person X has committed a felony". For that, you either need a conviction, or enough legally admissable evidence to back up that statement.

There is also the forum rules to consider. Under Paragraph I, specifically the section about Libel and Slandar laws, Gbaji could request enforcement of that clause on both yourself and Barkingturtle, and I would pretty much have to comply. It's the Asylum, so I haven't, but in any other forum section it would have been essentially automatic. The relevant paragraph may be examined here: https://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/Forum_Rules

I've already banned one 20k + account in the last 5 days. I really don't want to add more drama to the mix at this time.

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What about "I think it's quite likely that, regardless of his protestations, anonymous person B may have lost his virginity with the help of a roofie."

Would that qualify as libel or slander?

I think I've found the problem here.....


And..



/lol

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From a libel or slandar perspective, it's all about the phrasing. If you were to put "allegedly" in front of "committed a form of rape" there wouldn't be an issue. Or quoteing text to use as an example as above, where it is clear you are using that text as an example is not an issue. If you were to go to a park and shout "person X committed a form of rape" and they have not been convicted in a court of law of rape, and there is no pending or ongoing investigation or trial, or any evidence to support such a statement, that falls under the definition of Defamation of Character. When you do the same thing in timestamped, written form in a public venue, you take most of the mitigating circumstances away. Use words like "I think" or "probably" or "Allegedly" etc. if you must, but once you start making declarative statements in a permanent, timestamped media format with no ambiguity of that nature, you are pretty much screwed if the target takes it badly and has the resources to take things to that level. To protect the forum, I have to proceed on the asumption that the target has the resources and desire to do that.

Regarding what constitutes rape and the variables associated with that, you are correct. There are flaws in the legal system, especially in some states, and that should probably change. hell, there are probably flaws in the libel and slandar laws we operate under as well, but just because we don't agree with a given law doesn't mean it wouldn't still land us in trouble if we break it.

Thats the thing. It could be taken as a humerous statement. It could be taken literally by Gbaji. thats why you need to be careful with this ****.

As can most things people post/write/say ever. There is probably a dozen posts of bickering on this first page, because people can't agree on what is being implied in the things that are discussed.

But Gbaji is entitled to his own opinion, though he is likely just trying to prove some point that in his mind makes him look like a superstar. So I can't fault him for that, as long as he walks it off and continues to post funny *** posts about things he doesn't get.