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#5 Jan 26 2011 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent

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I still say that if you want to defeat terror, simply don't be terrorized. Color coding your days based on bad hoojoo isn't exactly... winning.

#6 Jan 26 2011 at 7:50 PM Rating: Excellent

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We never did make it all the way to alert "Plaid". Otherwise known as "Oh ****, the north Koreans have a working time machine"

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#7 Jan 26 2011 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent

Almalieque

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Lefein wrote:

I still say that if you want to defeat terror, simply don't be terrorized.

How does that work?

#8 Jan 26 2011 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent

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Almalieque wrote:

Lefein wrote:

I still say that if you want to defeat terror, simply don't be terrorized.

How does that work?

Pretty damn well. A bonus is that 9-11 jokes are ALWAYS funny.

#9 Jan 27 2011 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent

Allegory

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Almalieque wrote:

How does that work?

Don't inflate threats? Prioritize dangers by their probability*severity and not by their popularity*newness.

#10 Jan 27 2011 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent

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I had completely forgot this system existed.

#11 Jan 27 2011 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent

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Well, it seems that colors tend to be easier to remember. Most EMT's are trained to put colored tags on disaster victims identifying them as Must go, can wait a short time, wait longer, Dead.

#12 Jan 27 2011 at 8:56 AM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Tailmon wrote:

Well, it seems that colors tend to be easier to remember. Most EMT's are trained to put colored tags on disaster victims identifying them as Must go, can wait a short time, wait longer, Dead.

But if you only ever used the "Almost Dead" and "Dead" tags, you'd agree that the rest of the spectrum was pretty worthless, right? Kind of like the blue, green and yellow threat levels?

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#13 Jan 27 2011 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default

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Highly Therapeutic:

Watch an hour or two of 9-11 recorded news and take a shot of (insert beverage here) for every person that jumped out a window.

Or a shot for every time someone said the word "tragedy."

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:19pm by Lefein

#14 Jan 27 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good

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This is disappointing. I used to color-coordinate my outfit based on the terror level. Now what am I supposed to do?

#15 Jan 27 2011 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good

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Bardalicious wrote:

This is disappointing. I used to color-coordinate my outfit based on the terror level. Now what am I supposed to do?

Go to a rave dressed like a Mudkip. Enjoy freedom!

#16 Jan 27 2011 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent

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Jophiel wrote:

Tailmon wrote:

Well, it seems that colors tend to be easier to remember. Most EMT's are trained to put colored tags on disaster victims identifying them as Must go, can wait a short time, wait longer, Dead.

But if you only ever used the "Almost Dead" and "Dead" tags, you'd agree that the rest of the spectrum was pretty worthless, right?

Well at least in that case there would still be one tag (dead) that still means something, unlike the threat levels, which are all entirely meaningless.

#17 Jan 27 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent

gbaji

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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:

Jophiel wrote:

Tailmon wrote:

Well, it seems that colors tend to be easier to remember. Most EMT's are trained to put colored tags on disaster victims identifying them as Must go, can wait a short time, wait longer, Dead.

But if you only ever used the "Almost Dead" and "Dead" tags, you'd agree that the rest of the spectrum was pretty worthless, right?

Well at least in that case there would still be one tag (dead) that still means something, unlike the threat levels, which are all entirely meaningless.

As opposed to the alternative, where they give us a press release after something has happened and tell us that "our security measures worked just as intended", even when they quite obviously didn't?

Not like I was ever a huge fan of the color threat level thingie anyway, but at least presumably there's some change in response or posture by security forces and at government facilities, public places, etc based on a color change. That they didn't change the colors much is another issue entirely. The core concept is at least legitimate. It just got politicized too much, which made it ineffective in application.

I'll also point out that with the colors, you at least had the potential of having a lower security level at some point in the future. I'm a bit curious if by eliminating them, this means that we'll just remain at the same heightened alert level all the time, going forward. Is that actually "better"? Or just an acceptance of a new reality? And is that better either?

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#18 Jan 27 2011 at 6:05 PM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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gbaji wrote:

I'm a bit curious if by eliminating them, this means that we'll just remain at the same heightened alert level all the time, going forward.

Oh, no doubt. Without colored flashcards, our nation is paralyzed.

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#19 Jan 28 2011 at 1:38 AM Rating: Good

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How about they just come up with a plan that says:
We could be attacked at any time no matter what we do to prevent it, so suck it up and deal with it you American pussies!

#20 Jan 28 2011 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good

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Theanrkist wrote:

How about they just come up with a plan that says:
We could be attacked at any time no matter what we do to prevent it, so suck it up and deal with it you American pussies!

We need to bring back fallout drills. Man, I loved hiding under my desk in the first grade in case the Russkies decided to drop nukes on us.

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#21 Jan 28 2011 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good

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Debalic wrote:

Theanrkist wrote:

How about they just come up with a plan that says:
We could be attacked at any time no matter what we do to prevent it, so suck it up and deal with it you American pussies!

We need to bring back fallout drills. Man, I loved hiding under my desk in the first grade in case the Russkies decided to drop nukes on us.

Wait, you guys still did that 20-30 years ago? Wow, paranoia runs rampant down there.

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#22 Jan 28 2011 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent

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Jophiel, In a situation like I have experienced. Trained people and tags do work. Believe me its not fun placing tags on people in a five car wreck. Body's everywhere and finding you are the highest trained medical person on the scene. The arriving ambulances need the tags to identify who goes first, second, or the coroner.

#23 Jan 28 2011 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good

Elinda

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Lefein wrote:

I still say that if you want to defeat terror, simply don't be terrorized. Color coding your days based on bad hoojoo isn't exactly... winning.

I just wear a Mood Ring.

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#24 Jan 28 2011 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Tailmon wrote:

Jophiel, In a situation like I have experienced. Trained people and tags do work.

Yeah, you're missing the point. The DHS only ever had us on one setting: Orange. It would go to red briefly during an actual event and that was it. You never visited the airport and saw that the threat level was blue, green or yellow.

The national threat level was almost always "yellow" except, beyond never changing, you never saw it anywhere anyway. Well, I did visit a town once with the threat level prominently displayed on a village sign which I'm sure was a daily pick-me-up for everyone going through that intersection.

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#25 Jan 28 2011 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent

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I do remember it being other than yellow many times. But, I work for the state. And believe me the intelligence of some of the people there rival Stumps in comparison.

#26 Jan 28 2011 at 9:02 AM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Tailmon wrote:

I do remember it being other than yellow many times.

"Many times"? Really? Because the nationwide level has only briefly changed to orange five times, all of which were in 2003.

Apparently the state overpays you.

Edit: I'm calling a "change" going from yellow to orange. Wiki says more times because they're counting each reversion from orange back to yellow as a separate event.

Edited, Jan 28th 2011 9:04am by Jophiel

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