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#52 Feb 03 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
That's actually funny considering Egypt is kicking out every foreign reporter.

A government you can get behind!
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#53REDACTED, Posted: Feb 03 2011 at 12:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#54 Feb 03 2011 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Radical Muslim mobs kicked out the reporters and previously shut down the internet and tried to silence al Jazeera?

This I did not know.
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#55 Feb 03 2011 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Radical Muslim mobs kicked out the reporters and previously shut down the internet and tried to silence al Jazeera?

This I did not know.


Oh, what tangled webs are woven.

Smiley: looney

Edited, Feb 3rd 2011 2:07pm by Eske
#56 Feb 03 2011 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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Woah there joph.

What if the radical muslim brotherhood has infiltrated and gained control of both the government and the protesters, Then they could be everywhere.

Everywhere.

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#57 Feb 03 2011 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
Eske Esquire wrote:
Oh, what tangled webs are woven.

Smiley: looney

When we practice to, what, decoven?
#58 Feb 03 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
Jophed,

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Radical Muslim mobs kicked out the reporters and previously shut down the internet and tried to silence al Jazeera?


Actually the radical muslim mobs were using the reporters to foment rebellion. This is why they were kicked out. And incidentally why those who supported Mubarak chased the biased propagandist like Cooper and that other b*tch out.

I'm still wondering if barrys actually going to do anything to support our ally or going to continue to sit back and all the radicals, which are the minority, to take complete control. I'm guessing the later. We all know barry's just a mulsim in christians clothing.

#59 Feb 03 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
varusword75 wrote:
Actually the radical muslim mobs were using the reporters to foment rebellion.

I read that as format rebellion and giggled. It was a malevolent and bitter giggle.

But I giggled.
#60 Feb 03 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm guessing the later. We all know barry's just a mulsim in christians clothing.

Erm, do you think that President Mubarak isn't a Muslim?


Hint: Sunni
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#61 Feb 03 2011 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
Jophed,

Uh no. But obviously Mubarak is more of an ally to the US than the muslim brotherhood.

#62 Feb 03 2011 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Oh, what tangled webs are woven.

Smiley: looney

When we practice to, what, decoven?


Smiley: nod
#63REDACTED, Posted: Feb 03 2011 at 4:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Eske,
#64 Feb 03 2011 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Uh no.

Really? Because you just said that Obama wanted Egypt to fall because Obama's a Muslim.

Heheheh... I think it's funny that you had no idea that the leader of Egypt was Muslim but it'll be yet more fun watching you insist that you always knew it.
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#66 Feb 03 2011 at 4:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Nope didn't say that.

Hahahaha... keep trying.
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#67 Feb 03 2011 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
Eske,

What's truly sad is Obama has just lost one of our best allies in the ME and you liberals actually think this is a good thing and a joke.

I'm guessing you won't be laughing when the radical muslims who've taken over try and attack Israel. Nah you'll just be screaming about Israel's "dissproportionate response".


Honestly who gives a **** about Israel. Again im going to ask if you are a fan of spending, because every year you give money to that pissant nation. For what to help fund the worlds largest ever concentration camp? Or do you support Israel in their continued assault on the rights of the Palestinians. Be truthful now, either you like wasting money in government, or you like the Jews who after surviving the Holocaust have now done the same thing they went through in the 30's.

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#68 Feb 03 2011 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Eske,

What's truly sad is Obama has just lost one of our best allies in the ME and you liberals actually think this is a good thing and a joke.

I'm guessing you won't be laughing when the radical muslims who've taken over try and attack Israel. Nah you'll just be screaming about Israel's "dissproportionate response".





Sometimes I wonder how someone could take pride in the incoherent ramblings that you prematurely ejaculate onto this forum, chock full of hastily cobbled together buzzwords and epithets despite their brevity. Then I remind myself that you're just being ironic.

Though were you being serious, I would remind you that I've said nothing of my opinion of the ME revolts. In fact, I don't yet have an opinion about them; it seems to me that things could just as easily turn out worse for all parties involved as they could for the better. I've no idea.

Then I'd chide you for lumping together everyone who disagrees with your crazed assertions into one group, and suggest that it was evidence of the same self-delusion that your arguments are founded on.

But of course, you were just kidding, so instead I'll have a good laugh about it all. Good show!
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There was a varus in Europe when the US rebelled. Circle of life.
#71 Feb 03 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Eske,

Yes you have chosen a side. That you hide behind that choice with flippant, and fairly transparent, attempts at humour is just you channelling colbert.


and yes there are two groups of people...those who agree with me and those who don't. I don't recognize the fence sitters because well they're p*ssies.


Aye, the most important thing is that you have an opinion, and argue it as fervently as you can, not whether its right or wrong. Never let a lack of data stand in the way of a strong conclusion.

Anyway varus, you flatter me. You're much closer to Colbert than I could ever hope to be.
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Honestly, what's happening in Egypt isn't Obama's fault. It's not Bush's fault. It's not Clinton's fault or Bush Sr's fault or the fault of anyone except Mubarak and the Egyptian government. America has been on Mubarak to reform in various areas for years and years. He hasn't (not significantly, anyway). We've brushed it off because Egypt was willing to work with the US and we needed a powerful partner in the region to offset nations like Iran.

The US is in a difficult spot. Supporting an authoritarian regime against a popular uprising isn't much of an option while you're trying to convince other nations that you're bringing the light of democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan. Supporting a popular uprising that may very well prove to install an anti-American government isn't much of an option when you have a significant ally and one who is also filled with US military hardware. There are no good answers here but that's not America's fault as such. I suppose you can spin some larger argument about how the US shouldn't involve itself anywhere globally or some claptrap but that's not especially helpful in this instance.
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#73 Feb 04 2011 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
What exactly is the role of the US in Egyptian politics? It's perfectly fine to be publicly commenting about the happenings in Egypt and their opinions, as many countries do. But it seems the US goes one step further and have private phone discussions with Egypt authorities like Mubarak and their new PM Ahmed Shafiq, basically 'advising' them what they should do. No other country does this. And why doesn't the Egyptian authorities tell Obama to STFU and mind his own business?
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And why doesn't the Egyptian authorities tell Obama to STFU and mind his own business?

Approximately $2,000,000,000 in aid annually including $1.3bil in direct military aid, $300mil in economic aid and other things such as giving surplus military hardware. The foundation of Egypt's military, the M1A1 Abrams tank and F-16 fighter are both from the United States.

Ironically, a portion of the economic aid is mandated to be spent on promoting democracy programs.
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#75 Feb 04 2011 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Its because the US need to keep Egypt stable, they are one of the few allies that they have in the region. However the US is also notorious for infringing into the politics of other nations, Panama, Columbia, Venezuela are 3 more recent ones where the US tried to insert American minded politicians, 2/3 were successful, in Vene however the president basically told them to **** off.
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#76 Feb 05 2011 at 6:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sarah Palin, via exclusive interview with David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network, wrote:
It’s a difficult situation, this is that 3am White House phone call and it seems for many of us trying to get that information from our leader in the White House it it seems that that call went right to um the answering machine. And nobody yet has, no body yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and um, no, not, not real um enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level and from dc in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt. And um, in these areas that are so volatile right now because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And um, we do not have all that information yet.

Pleaserunforpresidentpleaserunforpresidentpleaserunforpresident....

The "ums", etc were left in the CBN transcript so cry to them if you think their insertion makes her look worse than she is

Edited, Feb 5th 2011 6:38pm by Jophiel
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