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#52 Jan 14 2011 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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#53 Jan 14 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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#54 Jan 14 2011 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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People still want to listen to Dire Straits?

I find that pretty hard to believe.

Brothers in Arms is still one of the best rock songs ever made, with truly transcendent lead guitar.

I agree that their oevre as a whole is somewhat varied. I still love Romeo and Juliet. My sister has discovered that small children go wild for Twistin' By the Pool and can be entertained by that for hours alone.

Edited, Jan 14th 2011 10:55pm by Aripyanfar
#55 Jan 14 2011 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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Does commercial radio even play music? I thought it was just some asshats talking to each other pretending to be funny.

And the ads, my god. I can't bear to listen to commercial radio. Luckily there are some very varied forms of Gov radio here.
#56 Jan 14 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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My preffered listening choice...

All other radio stations are ****. (So they reckon).



Whatever is on now isn't bad, though I have no idea what it is. Kinda mellow and groovy.

Edited, Jan 14th 2011 11:00pm by Debalic
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#57 Jan 15 2011 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been wondering how they play that Cee Lo Green song, "Fuck You," on the radio. Apparently they do, but it drops like fifty swears. Don't really listen to the radio myself, but have to wonder how it affects the song.

Great song if you haven't heard it btw.

Edited, Jan 15th 2011 12:26am by Kachi
#58 Jan 15 2011 at 3:07 AM Rating: Good
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I've been wondering how they play that Cee Lo Green song, "Fuck You," on the radio. Apparently they do, but it drops like fifty swears. Don't really listen to the radio myself, but have to wonder how it affects the song.

Great song if you haven't heard it btw.

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It sounds absurd, and not in the charming way the original does.
#59 Jan 15 2011 at 3:36 AM Rating: Good
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My preffered listening choice...

All other radio stations are sh*t. (So they reckon).



Whatever is on now isn't bad, though I have no idea what it is. Kinda mellow and groovy.

Edited, Jan 14th 2011 11:00pm by Debalic



I like them 'cos they'll play anything, at any time, swear a lot and the only ads they play are the ones they make themselves which are perfect little nuggets of kiwi humour.

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#60 Jan 15 2011 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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It sounds absurd, and not in the charming way the original does.


Didn't know it was a remake. Anyway, I like the timbre of it.
#61 Jan 15 2011 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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It sounds absurd, and not in the charming way the original does.


Didn't know it was a remake. Anyway, I like the timbre of it.

I think he means the original, uncensored version. As far as I know, they censor it by making it "Forget You" instead.
#62 Jan 15 2011 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
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Kachi wrote:
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It sounds absurd, and not in the charming way the original does.


Didn't know it was a remake. Anyway, I like the timbre of it.

I think he means the original, uncensored version. As far as I know, they censor it by making it "Forget You" instead.
Yes, it's Forget You. I actually think the edited version doesn't sound that horrible.
#63 Jan 15 2011 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, it's Forget You. I actually think the edited version doesn't sound that horrible.

It's one of those songs where it's more about the catchy tune than the actual words, though the upbeat way he sings those particular lyrics does add some comedic value to it.
#64 Jan 15 2011 at 5:46 PM Rating: Good
Personally, I don't think the government (or some quasi-independant group) should have any say in what goes over the airwaves, especially since in the US, cable and satellite makes that authority almost irrelevant. I have no problem with ratings, hardware that allows parental controls and what-not, but stations should be allowed to air whatever they want, whenever they want. The vast majority of TV/Radio stations will avoid content that will get them an M rating or the equivalent that will cause them to lose major sponsors. Of course, there will still be networks like FX and Spike that will actually do better because they let adults hear those horrible hurty words that everyone is afraid of.
#65 Jan 19 2011 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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After years of pandering to the homosexuals of canada, and giving them what they want. Tth Gay agenda has finally taken its first attack on our society.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/dire-straits-money-nothing-censored-broadcast-panel-rules-20110112-175448-551.html

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OTTAWA - The 1980s song "Money for Nothing" by the British rock band Dire Straits has been deemed unacceptable for play on Canadian radio.
In a ruling released Wednesday, the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council says the song contravenes the human rights clauses of the Canadian Association of Broadcasters' Code of Ethics and Equitable Portrayal Code.
A listener to radio station CHOZ-FM in St. John's, N.L., complained last year that the song includes the word "******" in its lyrics and is discriminatory to gays.
The broadcaster argued that the song had been played countless times since its release decades ago and has won music industry awards.
A CBSC panel concluded that the word "******," even if once acceptable, has evolved to become unacceptable in most circumstances.
The panel noted that "Money for Nothing" would be acceptable for broadcast if suitably edited.


Not only have they stolen one of my favorite songs to work to. They have also stolen a word I use daily. Now how am I supposed to identify a bundle of sticks with one easy word, while listening to the sweet sounds of Money for Nothing. It is appalling.



I know I'm late to the party on this but...

You do realize that on release and for most of the next couple years radio stations in the US and Canada at least played a radio edit with that word removed. The stations actually had two choices on the promo disc, one with the word replaced with a punch in of "queenie" (really not much difference) and one that just faded the vocal to leave the questionable word blank. Generally speaking, standard stations used the "queenie" edit and nationally syndicated shows used the faded one just to play it safe. All Warner will do is dip into the archives and dig out the "queenie" version and rush a digital rip to the stations then this argument could start all over with the exact same basis. If that doesn't fly with the Standards Council, they'll flip to the faded edit.

You are getting bent out of shape over nothing. Your must not be disturbed work routine will not be challenged by the absence of the overplayed hit. In fact, it will probably be the exact same version stations played 25 years ago. That should sit even better with your routine. All will be back as it was when it was.

Oh...think about it for a minute. Warner and Knopfler knew this song was questionable for airplay on release in '85. Mark did the vocal punch-in and Warner sent it out three different ways to stations. Pinning "gay agenda" to this is more than just a massive stretch, it's absurd. The song was never clear cut radio-friendly fodder in its album form.

What annoys me from an American perspective is that when a song reaches the commercial stature of this or say AOR staples: Money, Who Are You or Jet Airliner (there are tons more), the song's "classic" status somehow grants the stations immunity from the rules that independent radio stations have to abide by. There have been many cases where small stations have been fined harshly or briefly knocked off the air for jocks forgetting to queue up the radio edit instead of the album version, even in the case of truly honest mistakes. It's called "cost-effective enforcement".

For the record, there are a good number of tracks that were kept off the airwaves (or beeped, which everyone hated) over the years for using the same word. Why should Money for Nothing or any of the other AOR staples that cross the line for that matter receive special treatment and allow radio stations an exemption? Either apply the rules evenly or get rid of them.

It's not like the FCC has done much more than harass small stations, rubber stamp corporate mergers that violate their own current rules and let the corporations dictate to them what they will do for the last 25 years or so anyway.
#66 Jan 19 2011 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, here in the US most radio stations simply removed the entire verse from the song. I remember the first time I heard the unedited version and being surprised at the lyrics. I can only assume that MTV also edited it out in their early versions since I watched MTV a lot during that same time period (and vividly remember the video). My memory is a bit fuzzy about how long this period of time was, but I seem to remember thinking the song had been out for years before I heard the version with the '******' verse in it. Obviously, I never bought (or heard) the album.
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#67 Jan 19 2011 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good
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What's funny is here in the south (well, in Nashville anyway when the song first came out) it wasn't censored at all. I didn't realize it was getting censored other places.
#68 Jan 19 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Default
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I think the last two posters before the above are misinformed. I have heard the song in its entirety on both American and Canadian radio stations numerous times over the last 15 years. In fact today was the first time I ever heard the "edited" version. Please cite the stations and regulations that required stations to edit this song upon release. As far as I know this is the first time in North America the song has come under scrutiny.
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#69 Jan 20 2011 at 12:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
What's funny is here in the south (well, in Nashville anyway when the song first came out) it wasn't censored at all. I didn't realize it was getting censored other places.

It wasn't here. I remember thinking "Ooohh... scandalous!" since I was just old enough to get what a "******" was.
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#70 Jan 20 2011 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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I remember thinking "Ooohh... scandalous!"
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#71 Jan 20 2011 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
What's funny is here in the south (well, in Nashville anyway when the song first came out) it wasn't censored at all. I didn't realize it was getting censored other places.

It wasn't here. I remember thinking "Ooohh... scandalous!" since I was just old enough to get what a "******" was.


Every time I think you're around my age you go and say something like this and it just messes me all up. /sigh
#72 Jan 20 2011 at 7:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I remember when I got a cassette of Steve Miller Band, and it had the line "Funky shit goin' down in the city" changed to "funky kicks" in Jet Airliner. Yet on the local radio station it wasn't changed. Funny, eh?
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You sure you ain't a ******?

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#74 Jan 21 2011 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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rdmcandie wrote:
I think the last two posters before the above are misinformed. I have heard the song in its entirety on both American and Canadian radio stations numerous times over the last 15 years.


You do understand that "the last 15 years" still places your entire time frame 10 years after the song was released, right? Your statement and ours are not contradictory.

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In fact today was the first time I ever heard the "edited" version. Please cite the stations and regulations that required stations to edit this song upon release. As far as I know this is the first time in North America the song has come under scrutiny.


Has it occurred to you that this is a failing of the extent of your knowledge? I mean, virtually every single older poster is reporting remembering hearing edited versions of the song back when it came out but you insist that since you haven't heard one it must not be true? Are you suggesting we're all just making this up? Cause that would be a pretty amusing meeting of conspirators for a pretty silly reason.
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I mean, virtually every single older poster is reporting remembering hearing edited versions of the song back when it came out

Nadenu and I just said we didn't hear edited versions. Kitca said there were two edited versions for radio play but I distinctly remember hearing the unedited version. Didn't own the album, either.

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 6:48pm by Jophiel
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Jophiel wrote:
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I mean, virtually every single older poster is reporting remembering hearing edited versions of the song back when it came out

Nadenu and I just said we didn't hear edited versions.


Virtually every single older poster except Jophiel and Nadenu reported remembering hearing edited versions of the song back when it came out.

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