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#1 Jan 11 2011 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm looking at a house I may purchase tonight (second look) and I need to know a couple of things:

1. How do I check if the home has aluminum wiring short of stripping some wire?

2. If the home has aluminum wiring how big of a deal is this (I've googled, arguments on both sides of the fence so I'm looking for personal experience)

3. Can you still buy aluminum wiring if I were to renovate the basement?
#2 Jan 11 2011 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not that it's much better but couldn't you pull a light switch or outlet and see what the wire is without stripping it?

Aside from that, I don't know squat about aluminum wiring in the home. That shit be crazy talk.
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#3 Jan 11 2011 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
Yoda,

Do you know any electricians? What do they think?

#4 Jan 11 2011 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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yeah Id see if you can get an electrician to join you through a walk through
#5 Jan 11 2011 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Aluminum wiring has a lower rating than copper wiring, so the wires may overheat faster and catch on fire. You may want to check your local building codes to see if aluminum wiring is still allowed, if not when you renovate you will have to replace it.
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#6 Jan 11 2011 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Hire a home inspector. May seem like a lot of money to fork out to possibly have them tell you not to buy the house, but $600 versus $150,000+ seems like a good deal to me.
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#7 Jan 11 2011 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Even if it is Aluminum wiring, you can cross it with copper wiring if you do it appropriately (at least according to Holmes on Homes)
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Hire a home inspector. May seem like a lot of money to fork out to possibly have them tell you not to buy the house, but $600 versus $150,000+ seems like a good deal to me.


I'll be hiring an inspector but if I can blacklist the house before hiring an inspector I'd prefer to not pay the inspector to inspect a house I'm not going to buy.

Wife's father is an electrician but they're not speaking. That's the only electrician I know personally.

I'll probably pull off an outlet cover or something, I'd thought of that but was hoping there was a way to just look at the fuse panel or the covered wire in the basement and tell from there.

I'm not so much concerned about fire hazards (that can be negated with some maintenance on the connections) as the ability to repair/upgrade/add-on and still be able to sell the house later.
#9 Jan 11 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Hire a home inspector. May seem like a lot of money to fork out to possibly have them tell you not to buy the house, but $600 versus $150,000+ seems like a good deal to me.


I'll be hiring an inspector but if I can blacklist the house before hiring an inspector I'd prefer to not pay the inspector to inspect a house I'm not going to buy.

Wife's father is an electrician but they're not speaking. That's the only electrician I know personally.

I'll probably pull off an outlet cover or something, I'd thought of that but was hoping there was a way to just look at the fuse panel or the covered wire in the basement and tell from there.

I'm not so much concerned about fire hazards (that can be negated with some maintenance on the connections) as the ability to repair/upgrade/add-on and still be able to sell the house later.
Typically your loan provider requires the house be inspected by a certified inspector. While this inspection is useful it's usually very focused on specific items.

I'd hire an electrician.
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#10 Jan 11 2011 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.
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Yodabunny wrote:
I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.
Well la-dee-da. You apparently needed a forum to get you this far.

Still my point remains the same, if your concerns are electrical, I'd hire an electrician before hiring a house inspector.
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#12 Jan 11 2011 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.


Good luck with that....
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#13 Jan 11 2011 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.
Well la-dee-da. You apparently needed a forum to get you this far.

Still my point remains the same, if your concerns are electrical, I'd hire an electrician before hiring a house inspector.
Any home inspector worth a lick can at least tell you whether or not it meets the obvious things. You'd only need to bring in an electrician if the home inspector notes something he's unsure of.
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#14 Jan 11 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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20:1 he electrocutes himself.
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20:1 he electrocutes himself.
Pretty sure that's SOP for him.
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#16 Jan 11 2011 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
Well la-dee-da. You apparently needed a forum to get you this far.


Was in no way an attack against you Elinda I appreciate your input. I'm reasonably handy on my own but asking for input, hints, tips etc can only help.


Uglysasquatch wrote:
Any home inspector worth a lick can at least tell you whether or not it meets the obvious things. You'd only need to bring in an electrician if the home inspector notes something he's unsure of.


This. And if it comes to it and I'm still interested I will do just that. Just doing my due diligence before I start shelling out clams to inspectors to tell me things I can check myself. Then, assuming I don't find any deal breakers, I'll hire an inspector to catch everything I missed.
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paulsol wrote:
Yodabunny wrote:
I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.


Good luck with that....


Yeah, I meant electrical outlet, as in take off the outlet cover...not sure what I was thinking there. How would one open a light socket?
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
20:1 he electrocutes himself.
Pretty sure that's SOP for him.


When I was 12 I tried to install an outlet in the basement of our old house. I turned off the power and got to work. Ended up electrocuting myself. It was a 220V line that was apparently in the wall from a previously removed baseboard heater. I hadn't turned off the heater circuit because I wasn't working on it.

Luckily I fell over detaching myself from the line I was clamped onto.

I check EVERYTHING before I touch it now.
#19 Jan 11 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Yodabunny wrote:
How would one open a light socket?


The same way you would open any electrical equipment. But that wasn't my point.

If you reckon you can tell the state of the electrical system of a house with a screwdriver and an ability to undo a couple of screws, then 'good luck to you'.
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#20 Jan 11 2011 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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paulsol wrote:
But that wasn't my point.

If you reckon you can tell the state of the electrical system of a house with a screwdriver and an ability to undo a couple of screws, then 'good luck to you'.
Funny, you saying that while completely missing his. All he's looking for are glaring issues right now.
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#21 Jan 11 2011 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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paulsol wrote:
But that wasn't my point.

If you reckon you can tell the state of the electrical system of a house with a screwdriver and an ability to undo a couple of screws, then 'good luck to you'.


I don't, but that's not what I'm doing.
#22 Jan 11 2011 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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In all likelihood all you really need to do is look at the gauge of the wire. Aluminum wire is probably going to be thicker due to its resistance.
#23 Jan 11 2011 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Yodabunny wrote:
paulsol wrote:
But that wasn't my point.

If you reckon you can tell the state of the electrical system of a house with a screwdriver and an ability to undo a couple of screws, then 'good luck to you'.


I don't, but that's not what I'm doing.



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I don't need to hire an electrician to tell me if it's aluminum or not, I'll bring a screwdriver open a light socket and look at the wires.


This thread is dull as fUck. Why dont you come back after you've electrocuted yourself (again) and tell us all about it.

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#24 Jan 11 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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I can support that idea.
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#25REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2011 at 3:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yoda,
#26 Jan 11 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Or I could bring a screwdriver...
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