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#27 Jan 08 2011 at 6:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think we can both agree that there are nut jobs on both sides of the aisle and that Lubriderm is a moron.
I'll agree that I can be a moron. It doesn't make you king of the internets, or even less retarded than you normally are.
#28 Jan 08 2011 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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Books:I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.

This is basically the curriculum for the last two years of high school English class, except for a few notable exceptions (Communist Manifesto Lol).

Sounds like another nut with a gun.
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#29 Jan 09 2011 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously, Palin? Seriously??
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"We have nothing whatsoever to do with this," Palin aide. Rebecca Mansour told the talk radio host Tammy Bruce in an interview. "We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. It was simply cross-hairs like you'd see on maps," she said, suggesting that it is a "surveyor's symbol."

Map in question

This map was advertised in a tweet Palin sent out reading "Don't retreat, instead -- RELOAD!".

Now, seriously, you can't just say "You know what? Although we don't believe this had anything to do with the shooting, in retrospect, it was in poor judgment." You can't even just say nothing if you think it had nothing to do with it? You have to insult everyone's intelligence with some retarded lie about how they were never intended to be gun sights? "Surveyor's symbols"?? I've messed with some surveying equipment before and none of it needed to be "reloaded".

No, I'm not saying or even implying that her map had jack-all to do with Giffords being shot. But I didn't wake up this morning and drink a can of lead based paint either to think "Oh, yeah, obviously Palin didn't intend any gun-driven analogies with her map and statements. Surveyor's symbols! That makes sense..." Also, they scrubbed her site yesterday of these maps with the "surveyor's symbols" on them. Go figure.

Pathetic.
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#30 Jan 09 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think it would be possible to point to one trigger (so to speak). It's part and parcel of the whole tone of political discourse.

At some point it became okay to instigate violence as long as it's cutesy and oblique.

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#31 Jan 09 2011 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Palin just gets scarier and scarier.
#32 Jan 09 2011 at 12:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't think it would be possible to point to one trigger (so to speak). It's part and parcel of the whole tone of political discourse.

I'm more offended (such as it is) by the "what? Guns? GUNS? Oh, we never meant guns! That's insane crazy talk by left wing opponents to say we ever mean GUNS when we covered a map with crosshairs and said to reload..." bullshit.

If you're going to insist that it's okay to do (and she defended it plenty at the time) then ball up and either keep saying it's okay or admit that it was a dumb choice. Don't take some moronic third option where you insist that it never happened.
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#33 Jan 09 2011 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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I was wondering how long it would be before something like this happened. Living in heavily rural areas full of Varrus type personalities, I can tell you that it is their not-so-secret want to commit heinous acts of violence towards people they genuinely believe are a "threat" to the country-- that being Democrats, "liberals" (by their definition, any person or thing that makes them remotely uncomfortable) and to some extent minorities.

They equate their fellow Americans with difference in opinion to terrorists.

I just saw this in the news this morning in response to the shooting:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/09/arizona.shooting.rhetoric/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

I've seen my wife's grandmother get all bent out of shape over an email she received informing her of the "great and terrible evil" that is health care reform. It is a terrible tragedy when this "political rhetoric" can turn something our country desperately needs into something that sounds like a terrorist attack.
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#34 Jan 09 2011 at 12:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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If I was in the business of building black comedy websites, A Faux-political site featuring Palin in a catsuit, with a list of rep names entitled Kill (the) Bill Too has a nice design aesthetic to it.
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#35ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 1:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why is it that you libs cannot get over this unhealthy fixation you have of Sarah Palin?
#36 Jan 09 2011 at 1:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why is it that you libs cannot get over this unhealthy fixation you have of Sarah Palin?

What fixation? It's in the news.

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There is no evidence that this guy is a fan of Palin's

I said multiple times that this is the case. I'm talking about the asinine suggestion that her previous tweets and graphics weren't gun-related but had to do with "surveying". I'm saying she should have the balls to stick up for her previous items or else admit that they were a poor choice rather than saying they never existed as such. Are you saying that you believe her assertions now that there was nothing gun-related about the map or statements?

All the rest of your stuff is just you having some persecution complex on behalf of Palin. Enjoy the time up on your cross.

Edited, Jan 9th 2011 1:43pm by Jophiel
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#37 Jan 09 2011 at 1:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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the only information we have on this guy is he loved reading the Communist Manifesto, Rules for Radicals, Burned the American Flag and doesn't like "in God We Trust" on his money.

Funny he doesn't seem to "right wing" to me.

You forgot the Ayn Rand, Animal Farm, Brave New World and complains about US currency not being backed by a gold standard. Come to think of it, I don't see "Rules for Radicals" on his list but then that's a Tea Party favorite anyway.

Gee, now he doesn't seem "left wing" to me. Is there a reason you keep whining about how unfairly you're being treated while making sure in each post to *nudge*nudge* about how he sure doesn't seem "right wing" *nudge*nudge*?

The guy was just some lunatic. It's okay to say that without the additional hypocritical insinuations.

Edited, Jan 9th 2011 1:48pm by Jophiel
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#38ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 2:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes it's in the news because new organization such as the AP immediately began using Palin's name within minutes of the story hitting and some news agencies began hinting at a connection between Palin and this guy even before any facts were known about him and even now 24 hours later when even though we know more about what happened the left and most of the Media (same thing) still cannot speak about this story without mentioning Sarah Palin's name even though it is obvious to anyone with common sense and even the slightest bit of sanity that what happened has nothing to do with Sarah Palin.
#39 Jan 09 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
What I find funny is that the vehement Anti-Bush rhetoric from the left provided the perfect atmosphere for the whack jobs from the right to say whatever they wish, now. Granted, things are definitely dialed up, that's what shock-jock politics are all about.

Despite the Communist Manifesto being one of this nutters favorite books, it's pretty clear that he wasn't exactly a card carrying democrat. Who do we really put the blame on here, though? Are we going to point the finger at the Glenn Becks out there, or the government and it's people for cultivating an environment where there is a lucrative market on fear and anger? What surprises me is that it took this long for someone lame of mind and susceptible to the modern vitriol to make their voice heard with a trigger.

Don't blame the gun though, blame each and every time someone has to hear the "This guy is our President" or "That guy was your President." This is a nation divided. It's not about the North and the South, anymore though. This is the Fox News vs CNN war. It is REALLY damn funny to see people heading for the hills under the white banner of "We didn't really mean it" while counting the money from their book sales and advertising.

This is only the beginning, I'm afraid. The path ahead is all to clear. Everyone will blame the Tea Partiers and fringe right. The left will utilize the political leverage to ostracize. The center will chew their nails and relent. Rights and liberties will be sacrificed and it will only give the fringe right more ammunition as to why they were so ""crazy"" in the first place. Rinse, repeat, more violence ensues and the loser here will be the sensible.

Edited, Jan 9th 2011 3:25pm by Lefein
#40 Jan 09 2011 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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Yes it's in the news because new organization such as the AP immediately began using Palin's name within minutes of the story hitting and some news agencies began etc. etc.


Palin makes herself a pretty big (and easy)target. She wouldn't be happy if her name weren't brought up in the news every five minutes.
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#41ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 3:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So because you're saying she has too much media exposure (which I find amusing because you guys can't stop talking about her, writing about her or her kids and then complain the media pays to much attention to her) it's her fault that "news" outlets started trying to tie this guy to Palin and you guys have this hate for her?
#42 Jan 09 2011 at 3:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Palin makes herself a pretty big (and easy)target. She wouldn't be happy if her name weren't brought up in the news every five minutes.


So because you're saying she has too much media exposure (which I find amusing because you guys can't stop talking about her, writing about her or her kids and then complain the media pays to much attention to her) it's her fault that "news" outlets started trying to tie this guy to Palin and you guys have this hate for her?

OK..........

Gotta love liberal logic.




Edited, Jan 9th 2011 1:23pm by ThiefX


Personally, I think everyone should just ignore her and let her die.
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#43ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 3:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And you got rated up for that comment...........
#44 Jan 09 2011 at 3:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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You never answered the question. Do you believe Palin when she says that her target symbols and "RELOAD!" statements were based on surveying symbols?
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What I find funny is that the vehement Anti-Bush rhetoric from the left provided the perfect atmosphere for the whack jobs from the right to say whatever they wish, now.

Were you too young to remember the Clinton years or were you just not paying attention? I'd say the initial genesis of today's climate had mainly to do with Gingrich, Limbaugh and the politically driven Whitewater "investigation".
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#46 Jan 09 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
I like this thread 'cause Samira posted in it three times.

It's like Christmas came late last year - so late it's actually this year.
#47ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 4:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Palin never said this. This comment was made by Rebecca Mansour who is someone who works for Palin.
#48ThiefX, Posted: Jan 09 2011 at 4:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How convenient of you to forget the Reagan and Bush Sr years and the 60's and 70's where liberal protesters spit on returning marines and threw ***** and urine on them and where it was not uncommon for the parents of marines killed in action to receive calls in the middle of the night from "caring" "compassionate" liberals telling them how happy their son died at the hands of the Vietnamese freedom fighters.
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Were you too young to remember the Clinton years or were you just not paying attention? I'd say the initial genesis of today's climate had mainly to do with Gingrich, Limbaugh and the politically driven Whitewater "investigation".


How convenient of you to forget the Reagan and Bush Sr years and the 60's and 70's where liberal protesters spit on returning marines and threw ***** and urine on them and where it was not uncommon for the parents of marines killed in action to receive calls in the middle of the night from "caring" "compassionate" liberals telling them how happy their son died at the hands of the Vietnamese freedom fighters.
How convenient of all of you not to realize this is a human thing. History is full of it, so stop trying to point fingers.
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No I don't think it was meant to seen as a surveying symbol but I also don't give a crap whether it was a gun sight either because either one has nothing to do with this shooting.

So you think it was a ridiculous thing to lie about? Because that was the thrust of MY post on the topic. I know you needed to cry about how horrible Palin is treated but I was talking about how pathetic it was for her camp to try and trot out some "Oh... it.. was... A SURVEYING SYMBOL! That's it! It was never a gun sight! Hahahaha... what crazy liberal told you that one?"
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How convenient of you to forget the Reagan and Bush Sr years

Are you kidding? The Bush Sr. years were pretty much benign. Shit, to this day people will ***** about Bush Jr, ***** about Reagan and forget to say a word about Bush Sr because his tenure was pretty forgettable. Erm... broccoli, "Read my lips", "I'm not a wimp" and Gulf War I (which was pretty popular as far as wars go). That's about it for Bush Sr. Oh, yeah... Iran/Contra pardons. Boy, you sure hear a lot about those today, huh?

Sorry kiddo. The second half of the Clinton administration is largely what set the stage for the partisan fighting over Bush/Gore and then Bush and then Obama. Even the first term with the whining about "Hillarycare" and crap didn't compare to the second term. You don't have to like it but that won't make it less true.

Edited, Jan 9th 2011 5:01pm by Jophiel
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#51 Jan 09 2011 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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(Even though every liberal media outlet ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc etc keep trying to hint that it is)


Is it just me or does anyone else find it odd that 5/6 major news outlets are all liberal. If 5/6 are all saying similar things, wouldn't the odd man out be the one that is more likely to be incorrect?

Just saying.

(p.s. who is theifx, he is like a varus wannabe, but he uses to many words.)
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