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#277 Jan 13 2011 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Well that there's your problem. Best to stick with what you know best; like drawing rainbow coloured unicorns and sucking d*ck.

#278 Jan 13 2011 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Best to stick with what you know best; like drawing rainbow coloured unicorns and sucking d*ck.
I disagree. If that's someones only skill set, they should work on developing other skills.
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#279 Jan 13 2011 at 6:22 PM Rating: Default
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I'm bookmarking this thread and using it for reference whenever gbaji suggests that he's unbiased.


I suspect you don't really know what "unbiased" means, or are using it very selectively. Possibly even both.

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Jesus man. I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone could believe the sh*t that you come up with. Reload a web page? Really? REALLY??


Yes. Really. I'm still unsure why people keep thinking this is so unusual. If *anyone* other than Palin said those exact words in a tweet, none of you would assume it was a gun reference and not a web page reference. We do "reload" web pages, right? Do you seriously want me to link to the hundreds of thousands of uses of the word "reload" on the internet which refer to reloading a page and not a firearm? Want to take a wild guess what the ratio is there?

I can only respond to what I'm presented. I was presented with two links: A map with cross hairs on it, and a tweet saying not to retreat but to reload, with a request to visit a facebook page. Based on that information and only that information there's no reason to assume that the tweet was a firearm reference. The first and obvious assumption to anyone not acting in a biased manner is that it was a reference to loading a web page and not a gun.


You are so blinded by your own bias that you can't see what is really a biased response. I'll ask again that you think about what it means to be biased. You are judging Palin's words based on your own starting assumptions. You assume she's a gun-toting hick advocating violence and so you interpret her words in that context. That's textbook bias. I'm interpreting the words in the context given and with no bias. It's a reference to a web page and a request to reload. The correct interpretation should be obvious. To anyone who is actually unbiased that is...


This is not to say that she *wasn't* tossing in a double meaning there. I'm sure she was. However, she's counting on the very bias you seem to think you don't have in order to get that meaning. Get it? I'll ask a simple question: If you knew nothing more about Palin than the tweet referenced above, would you assume that the reload reference was about firearms? I know this is hard, but use your brains and imagine for a moment that someone you've never heard of before in your life posted that tweet and be honest about what it would mean to you. You'd *never* get a gun reference. Thus, your assumption is biased. Mine is *not*. Sheesh! If you're going to use words at least use them properly.

Edited, Jan 13th 2011 4:24pm by gbaji
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#280 Jan 13 2011 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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#281 Jan 13 2011 at 6:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
My thinking is that if I keep hitting him with it, then he'll have a revelatory moment like Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting, when Robin Williams just keeps saying "It's not your fault."

I know you're just intending it for a joke, but if you have any real desire to force him to have a revelatory moment, then repetition is the opposite of what you should do. Repetition is like nagging, and forces people to stop listening to the argument altogether.


I accepted long ago that there's no hope of reaching gbaji. 'Twas just a joke...something I like to do when I'm not painting unicorns and blowing guys...


...and furthering the gay agenda, and undermining our troops, and supporting radical islam, of course. Can't forget those.
#282 Jan 13 2011 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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If *anyone* other than Palin said those exact words in a tweet, none of you would assume it was a gun reference and not a web page reference.

Hahahahaha...

Right. I would think "Don't retreat, instead RELOAD!" means to stay brave by spamming F5 in Internet Explorer. Are you even convincing yourself? Because you're sure as hell not convincing anyone else.

Personally, I use the term "refresh" for websites but whatever.

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I can only respond to what I'm presented

God forbid anyone spend even twenty seconds learning something about the topic at hand before insisting over and over that everyone is just ever-so-unfair to Palin and you JUST KNOW that this is what she REALLY MEANT but we all refuse to see it because we just hate her SO MUCH!

Much better to come in screaming half-cocked and completely ignorant, making a complete fool of yourself in page after page. A fine, rational decision that does wonders for making yourself look like an intelligent, measured thinker.

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#283 Jan 13 2011 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
not to retreat but to reload
Please explain to me how "do not retreat" relates to her webpage?
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
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not to retreat but to reload
Please explain to me how "do not retreat" relates to her webpage?

Well, tea partiers tend to not be of the young, computer-savvy generation. Maybe they need a little help differentiating the back button from refresh?
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
not to retreat but to reload
Please explain to me how "do not retreat" relates to her webpage?


I don't know about you, but I often find myself retreating from websites.

Particularly ones that Usagi links to.
#286 Jan 13 2011 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
not to retreat but to reload
Please explain to me how "do not retreat" relates to her webpage?

Well, tea partiers tend to not be of the young, computer-savvy generation. Maybe they need a little help differentiating the back button from refresh?
So they'd know what reload means, but not "back button"?
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The funny thing (well, one of them among many) is that Gbaji is wringing his hands and complaining about we all so unfairly thought of guns in relation to Palin when Palin has been working with a media team since mid 2008 to cultivate this whole gun-toting, hard-fightin' Mama Grizzly frontier woman bullshit.

Why do you think she made sure to get a "Don't retreat, reload" comment in while holding a shotgun on her TLC program? So we'd know her thoughts about how to see new content on websites? She's just building her brand. She's carefully cultivated the exact same persona that Gbaji is all a-fluster about us "accusing" her of having.
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#288 Jan 13 2011 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
I accepted long ago that there's no hope of reaching gbaji. 'Twas just a joke...


Hahahaha! I wasn't aware that where you come from extreme condescension is dismissed as a joke and all is just fine and dandy. Look. If you can't back up what you say, don't say anything. How's that for a nice start?
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#289 Jan 13 2011 at 7:20 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
I accepted long ago that there's no hope of reaching gbaji. 'Twas just a joke...


Hahahaha! I wasn't aware that where you come from extreme condescension is dismissed as a joke and all is just fine and dandy. Look. If you can't back up what you say, don't say anything. How's that for a nice start?


I wasn't aware that jokes and condescension were mutually exclusive.

Huh.
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The funny thing (well, one of them among many) is that Gbaji is wringing his hands and complaining about we all so unfairly thought of guns in relation to Palin when Palin has been working with a media team since mid 2008 to cultivate this whole gun-toting, hard-fightin' Mama Grizzly frontier woman bullshit.


So. "bias"? Just checking.

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Why do you think she made sure to get a "Don't retreat, reload" comment in while holding a shotgun on her TLC program?l


I honestly have no clue what you are talking about. I don't follow Palin like you apparently do, so I honestly didn't get the reference. And no. I'm not making this up or trying to be cute. What you are mistaking for me being partisan or biased is me honestly having no F-ing idea what you guys are talking about. Has it occurred to you that you might just be living in a liberal echo chamber in which assumptions about what Palin does and says and the meanings behind those things are examined in far more detail then conservatives do?


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So we'd know her thoughts about how to see new content on websites? She's just building her brand. She's carefully cultivated the exact same persona that Gbaji is all a-fluster about us "accusing" her of having.


And isn't it funny how the only people who seem to read much into it are her political opponents. That's kinda telling, isn't it?
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gbaji wrote:
I honestly have no clue what you are talking about.

I know. You thrive on ******** at length about shit you're completely ignorant about so why would I suspect you're playing cute here?

You spoke from ignorance and looked stupid for it. We get it.
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#292 Jan 13 2011 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Hahahahaha...

Right. I would think "Don't retreat, instead RELOAD!" means to stay brave by spamming F5 in Internet Explorer. Are you even convincing yourself? Because you're sure as hell not convincing anyone else.

Personally, I use the term "refresh" for websites but whatever.


But be sure to check the facebook page for more details!.

Seriously gbaji, if you think it meant be an F5 hero you are a moron. Especially since the next part of the tweet says to go to facebook.

I would have agreed had you made the argument about it being wordplay in the sense they need to not give up on those seats, and to retool their strategy and come back at it.

But since you are adamant she meant to spam f5 on a tweet that asks you to visit another website in the next sentence, I can only sit back and laugh.

(insert laughing smile here) (and here)

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So assuming it's a reference to "reloading" a web page is absurd, but assuming it's intended to reference a scene from a TV show she hadn't done yet isn't? Apparently in addition to being a great cook Mrs Palin is also able to see into the future! Makes you wonder what went wrong with that whole election thing in 2008... ;)
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no it is absurd because in the very next sentence she directs you to another damn webpage. What the hell is the point of refreshing her tweet if she wants you to go to face book.

Quit trying to make it sound like a legit understanding of what was said. If you honestly believe that is what she meant, you are honestly a ******* moron.
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#295 Jan 13 2011 at 9:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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So yes, I believe she meant it as gun sights and saying RELOAD is also in reference to a gun. I think she was just trying to get people riled up. Unfortunately she may have gotten the wrong person a bit *too* riled up.


And implicit in that is the appeal (just in general, not an appeal to DO anything, before anyone gets their buckskin knickers in a big ol' sweaty knot) to the NRA crowd. Just showing how very down she is with the gun hobbyist set, don'tcher know.


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gbaji wrote:
So assuming it's a reference to "reloading" a web page is absurd, but assuming it's intended to reference a scene from a TV show she hadn't done yet isn't?

Nice job missing the point.
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#297 Jan 14 2011 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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A Sarah Palin staffer insisted in a radio interview that their use of a crosshair graphic on a midterm election "target list" -- that included the district of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) -- was not intended to allude to guns, Alaska Dispatch reports.

Said Rebecca Mansour: "We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights," explaining "It's surveyor's symbols."

However, Palin's own tweet just after the election was unambiguous: "Remember months ago 'bullseye' icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate;T'aint bad)"

Funniest part -- Camp Palin has since scrubbed the Tweet. It never happened, people! Never, never, never! Surveyor's symbols, that's all!

Luckily, folks had already taken screenshots of it before Palin tried to shove it down the memory hole.



To be clear, you're loling at the Palin camp not manning up to the metaphor rather than actually using the metaphor itself.
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To be clear, you're loling at the Palin camp not manning up to the metaphor rather than actually using the metaphor itself.

Pretty much everyone save a specific few can see that. It's nice to see even passersby point it out though.

That somewhat sounds sardonic, and I guess it is, but not towards you.
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So assuming it's a reference to "reloading" a web page is absurd, but assuming it's intended to reference a scene from a TV show she hadn't done yet isn't?

Nice job missing the point.


Also, how is it a show she's not done yet? I've never watched it, but I've seen commercial spots for it and I know I saw 2 slots blocked off for it on TLC.
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Nadenu wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So assuming it's a reference to "reloading" a web page is absurd, but assuming it's intended to reference a scene from a TV show she hadn't done yet isn't?

Nice job missing the point.


Also, how is it a show she's not done yet? I've never watched it, but I've seen commercial spots for it and I know I saw 2 slots blocked off for it on TLC.


The post was done last march I think her show didn't start until recently
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Nadenu wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
So assuming it's a reference to "reloading" a web page is absurd, but assuming it's intended to reference a scene from a TV show she hadn't done yet isn't?

Nice job missing the point.


Also, how is it a show she's not done yet? I've never watched it, but I've seen commercial spots for it and I know I saw 2 slots blocked off for it on TLC.


The post was done last march I think her show didn't start until recently


Ah, ok.
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