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#27 Dec 22 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes. By enabling their org. To grow 3000%, he sure showed them.
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#28REDACTED, Posted: Dec 22 2010 at 3:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Timey,
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I guess W showed them.

He did give them crayons and fingerpaints and tell them to be nice and not plan the next 9/11.
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#30 Dec 22 2010 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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I REALLY like the assertion that they'll grow "100,000,000%."

REALLY varus? You sound like a fucking child on a playground who tells their friend they're the cooler one times infinity.
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#31 Dec 22 2010 at 3:55 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
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Of course if he hadn't dealt with them they would have grown 100,000,000%.



Well then they'd be that much easier to pick out of a crowd. Thanks a lot W!
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biggest ally just thwarted a major muslim attack
You know how they pulled it off? They let gays serve in the military.
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#33 Dec 22 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently, varus wasn't aware that terrorists also popped up on gaydar. We're more useful than German Shepherds in a Colombian airport.
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#34 Dec 22 2010 at 4:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Obama did not double the unemployment rate.

Unemployment rate for February 2008 (GWB) 4.8%
Unemployment rate for January 2009 (end of GWB) 7.7% - an increase of 60% in 11 months
Unemployment rate for November 2010 (latest BHO) 9.8% - and increase of 27% in 22 months

But is wasn't Bush's fault; it was all because of that darned Democratic Congress that took over in January 2007, right?
#35 Dec 22 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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And it had NOTHING to do with an economic crisis that existed before the president came into office. Everyone knows he should have waved his magic wand and created jobs!
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#36 Dec 22 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Obama did not double the unemployment rate.

Unemployment rate for February 2008 (GWB) 4.8%
Unemployment rate for January 2009 (end of GWB) 7.7% - an increase of 60% in 11 months
Unemployment rate for November 2010 (latest BHO) 9.8% - and increase of 27% in 22 months

But is wasn't Bush's fault; it was all because of that darned Democratic Congress that took over in January 2007, right?


Then explain the Unemployment rate going from 3.9% @ end off 2000 to just under 6% in the first 4 years of the bush terms with a republican congress.
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#37 Dec 22 2010 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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Of course if he hadn't dealt with them they would have grown 100,000,000%.


Sounds like we would have had a lot more job opportunities in our counterterrorism industry.
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#38gbaji, Posted: Dec 22 2010 at 7:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Stop using an abnormal (and unhealthy) outlier unemployment number to make your arguments. That is *not* a normal rate of employment. Most economists place 5% as "ideal" unemployment, allowing for pretty much anyone to get a job if they want, but ensuring that there's enough job mobility for businesses to hire new people as needed.
#39 Dec 22 2010 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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Um what. Just because bush left in 09 doesn't mean you can ignore the nearly 3% jump in one year because of it. That simply shows that 3% + 2% more people (over 2 years) are still out of work/recently out of work, new to the workforce.

The whole point of me showing 3.9% was because you argue obama is terrible and its his fault. When Bush in a similar 2 year period saw the unemployment rate go from 4.2% at the start of his term to roughly 6% after 2 years. That is how did you say it....."a disaster." By comparison.

You are forgetting (more likely ignoring to "strengthen" your case) the 3% increase obama inherited due to the failing economy, as a result of a failure of economic policies by the Bush White house. Of course the typical GOP argument will be but the Dems controlled the house at the time so it was their issue. Which again takes us back to the early 00's when the GOP had the house and still saw a rise of nearly 2%.

As for your delusional unemployment philosophy that 5% is ideal you are nuts. 0% is ideal. For both government, and business. Everyone working means everyone is being taxed, social programs like welfare are not being used, and everyone has money to spend. Be it buying homes, cars, electronics etc etc etc. 5% is good. 4% is better, 6% is worse. To say 5% of the working populus is dependent on the government for support be it medicare, welfare, unemployment insurances is ridiculous. I thought you were against programs that take money and spend it in such ways.

Furthermore, if each successive % point up is a signal the economy is worsening wouldn't each successive % point down indicate otherwise. I mean you debunked your own argument in the ver next sentence for christ sake, and why 5% is that a number you arbitrarily pulled from your own ***? The Clinton years were mostly under 5% some of the time under 4% ad those were arguably the best years the american economy ever seen. The stock market sky rocketed, the Deficit was non-existent, the debt to GDP ratio was dropping. The only issue that plagued the clinton years was the increase in the trade deficit which is mostly a Nafta issue and not an economic policy issue. The dollar soared worldwide and the average american had huge buying power internationally and domestically. The reason this was so awesome was that more taxes were being collected, and less money was being spent on social programs which meant it could go elsewhere, like business tax cuts. Cuts that allowed upstart companies like Googles, and Yahoos to get off the ground and revolutionize the new internet market.

Now after 8 years of Bush the economy is ******* the deficit is huge, the debt to GDP ratio is huge, the unemployment rate is huge, the American dollar is laughable, hell even the canadian dollar is worth just as much, up from 60 cents : 1 USD from 2000, the Stock market is *******

Now you have the gall to put the blame on a president who has yet to serve one term, inherited the worst economic crisis since the depression, and expect him to solve all the problems over night. I mean seriously it took the Bush White House 1 year to destroy what Clinton had accomplished, and you expect Obama to fix a situation far greater than what papa bush left clinton in one year.

You sir are out to lunch. But by all means, keep on asking for trickle down economics, 4 of the companies I invest in here in Canada will be happy to continue buying up failed american enterprise, companies like TD, Royal Bank, Tim Hortons are loving the whole your in, and so am I. I like having a dollar on par, it means I can vacation in Florida hella cheaper then I could 4 years ago. So please, what ever you have done over the last 8-10 years keep doing it because my buying power is > than your buying power, and that aint not bad.





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#40 Dec 22 2010 at 10:54 PM Rating: Good
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4 of the companies I invest in here in Canada will be happy to continue buying up failed american enterprise,
I know we are enjoying the oppotunity to buy up American assets.

But you're wrong about businesses loving 0% unemployment. It means we're stuck with the employees we have and can not get better ones when one's a tard. It also means we're forced to pay much higher wages in order to draw people to our company versus another, which in turn drives up the cost of the products we produce. Look at Calgary over the last 5-10 years for proof.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 12:56am by Uglysasquatch
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#41 Dec 22 2010 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Like people with jobs never get different jobs?

At best, the argument for 5% unemployment is that the least competent 5% of workers are more trouble than they're worth, and we're better off paying them to stay home.
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Like people with jobs never get different jobs?
Sure they do, and it becomes a rotating door for most companies as people can apply anywhere and get hired anytime as companies become desperate for employees.
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#43 Dec 22 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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5% is still awfully high for an unemployment rate. We're not just talking about people without jobs-- labor statistics don't even have those figures. That discounts most young people who aren't working, stay-at-home mothers, and lots of other people who aren't working but would like to be.
#44 Dec 22 2010 at 11:34 PM Rating: Good
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Which is a good thing economically speaking. Since his snort was it doesn't help economically its why I pointed out the fallacy in that. From an employer standpoint it handcuffs you because of reasons you stated. However overall regardless of employee issues or not the company will still be making *** loads of money considering the fact everyone has money and if the company is in need of any old person for employ that means they can not keep up with demand, thus are selling products at a crazy rate.

As for Calgary I got to enjoy the boom in the mid 00's it was nice, and I got out before the slow down. As you said there are a lot of idiots out there. But the reason they are there is because their home provinces had stupid high unemployment, such as Newfoundland, and pretty much everything else out east, Ontario and Quebec. The same thing is going to happen in Sask.

But during the time in Alberta did the economy not soar. I mean look at the amount of residential, commercial, industrial projects along #2 in Red Deer, look at the Calgary expansion towards Airdre (sp.), Innisfail, Blackfalds. I built houses all along the #2 Corridor from edmonton to Calgary. I built several commercial buildings there as well. Everyone and their brother was pimping new trucks, cars, crotch rockets.

It was good for the overall economy, and sure employers had to deal with idiots, but overall everyone got rich, or they blew their money on stupid **** like an education (like me, stupid college.)
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#45 Dec 23 2010 at 12:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kachi wrote:
5% is still awfully high for an unemployment rate.
I'll agree to that.
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#46REDACTED, Posted: Dec 23 2010 at 10:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This just in terrorists bomb embassies in Rome!
#47 Dec 23 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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I love how since 9/11 whenever anything that is related to Bomb or explosion is instantly a terrorist plot. But since these were not American Embassies, not on American soil, I a quite sure it is not overly high on the "wake up" the president list.
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#48 Dec 23 2010 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
Varus, why don't you go choke on a ****?
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Varus, why don't you go choke on a ****?


Telling him to do something he might enjoy isn't a good way to insult people.
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#50 Dec 23 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Varus, why don't you go choke on a ****?


Telling him to do something he might enjoy isn't a good way to insult people.


But it might be a good way to get him to try it!
#51 Dec 23 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm confused...if this guy is supposed to be an idiot, then why does varus keep referring to him as an "intelligent official"?
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