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#102 Dec 17 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I do get it. You believe that poor people should overwhelmingly vote Democrat because the Democratic party passes economic spending bills which directly benefit them economically.

But when I responded to that and attempted to discuss that position, you abruptly changed the subject to talking about how the GOP is bad because they push god on people or something.


No, you very obviously DON'T get it. What actually happened was that you made some comment to the effect of, "Then why do lots of poor people vote for Republicans?" As you just said:

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Furthermore, I specifically said that not everyone agrees that it's actually in poor people's economic interest to be the recipients of those spending programs. I made that statement as an explanation to you as to why poor people don't all vote for the Democrats


...and I explained why: social issues, most of which, yes, are based on religion.

So I don't know what you wish the topic was or what kind of arguments you wish I was making and then backpedaling from, but I think it was pretty ******* clear what my argument was to everyone else. Maybe if you weren't so wrong you wouldn't have to try so hard to strawman me. Newsflash: I know what my arguments are. So either you don't, or you're pretending you don't because you don't like them. And it's getting awfully hard to give you the benefit of the doubt.
#103 Dec 17 2010 at 11:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
When the Dems took control in 2008, did they embark on any grand plans with regard to any of those social issues you guys keep talking about?

Yeah, they did. Were you not paying attention for the past two years? DADT repeal, state and federal efforts to repeal DOMA, overturning the ESC research funding ban... I guess they didn't need to do much regarding abortion since that's already the law of the land.

For that matter, their other "grand plans" had economic reasons: the unsustainable amount being spent on health care, attempting to correct the economy, unemployment assistance so people didn't bottom out completely and freeze up any consumer spending, reform of the financial sector, so on and so forth. I can't believe you're stupid enough to even try and make this argument except that you've once again backed yourself into a stupid-corner and can't find any way out except to crouch in deeper and start trying to bite people.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 7:58am by Jophiel
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#104 Dec 18 2010 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Actually i've learned never to take for granted the high level of ignorance from the majority of posters on this site.
Oh, in that case I'll hop in my honda (not that I expect you to know what that is) and go home.
#105 Dec 18 2010 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
MDenham wrote:
gbaji wrote:
The only math skills you need are "more stuff costs more money", which pretty much everyone can figure out.
Except, of course, for business people, who still apparently believe that producing more stuff costs less money per unit of stuff in the long run.


Er? You've heard of this thing called the industrial revolution, right? I'm not even sure how to respond to your post. It's that full of dumb sarcasm.
Fixed. The Internet really needs some means of appropriately marking the difference between a sarcastic response and an honest opinion, of which this was the former.

That said, it seems like a pretty convincing refutation of "more stuff costs more money", at least under certain circumstances.
#106 Dec 18 2010 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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Because you keep dancing away from it whenever I mention that what you're supporting is the equivalent of buying votes.


Sure, just like the GOP buys votes by supporting tax cuts for big business & the rich then uses wedge issues (abortion, gay marriage, ect.) to try & get some middle & lower class votes.

Gbaji wrote:
Furthermore, I specifically said that not everyone agrees that it's actually in poor people's economic interest to be the recipients of those spending programs.


This is also correct, but it isn't the poor who overwhelmingly feel that it's not in their own interest to be the recipients of spending programs, it's the rich/big business/conservative middle class as they don't want to pay for said spending programs. It's obvious that Kachi's implication is that the poor vote Republican because of social/gun issues: not usually because of spending programs that they benefit from.

Although, it is pretty funny to watch all those older tea partiers rail against socialized "Obamacare" while receiving Medicare & welfare.

I'd wonder why they do that, but...

IT'S OBVIOUS!
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#107 Dec 23 2010 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
I do get it. You believe that poor people should overwhelmingly vote Democrat because the Democratic party passes economic spending bills which directly benefit them economically
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