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Now that's funny.

So, how is my question irrelevant again?

The only one that you've mentioned was "irrelevant" in the previous posts. The one that people ignored. Can you name me one country that wouldn't be upset if their secrets were broadcast to the world to see?

You stated that question was irrelevant even after I specifically explained how it wasn't. You did so by simply saying it was irrelevant but didn't actually address any of my comments stating otherwise. So, I would like to hear your "logic" on how that question is irrelevant.

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/sigh... let me walk this through to you..but only one step at a time, because you'll get lost

You agree that any country would be upset.I never said that was sufficient criteria to off anyone, again, another fallacious assumption.

Do you agree that there exists some countries, such as N. Korea, that would kill someone for leaking their secrets? You know the countries that you all were claiming that I was aligning myself to?



Isn't that what I said, you didn't find it funny because you think he shouldn't be punished. I don't see how you don't see threatening national security for personal pleasure as "wrong", but that's another thread.

Do you think it's a coincidence that everyone at my job, who thinks he should be punished, thought it was funny and nobody on this site, who thinks he's innocent, thought it was funny? I don't think it was a coincidence, because that's typically what happens in jokes.



Well,I'm sorry to say that you just picked the wrong side to choose. Ugly is a troll. This is the same guy who tried to convince me in a two person conversation that he wasn't talking to me.... when I was the only person replying to him.

He's doing the same thing now. He's purposely avoiding questions and picking out the least value response to reply to just to troll.

I have no comparison to Varus other than "not agreeing with the mass". People ridicule Gbaji because he doesn't agree with the mass and his posts are long, none of which are valid reasons to be marked as something negative, so you're just falling into the "laugh at Alma" nonsense without actually thinking for yourself.

Oh look, a completely new question! Yes, some countries would doubtlessly kill foreigners who release their secrets. And amazingly, still irrelevant. If you agree that "being upset" is not sufficient criteria to off someone, what point did your question have? It didn't have any point, right? Making it... irrelevant?

And I never claimed anything - as far as I know this is actually one of the few (less than half dozen at most) times I've ever responded to you. So not sure why I'm being lumped in with "you all."

Calm down and just follow instructions.. Didn't I say that I was going to walk you through this logic since you obviously don't comprehend the point of the question.

So, you agree that no country wouldn't be upset if their secrets were exposed.

You also agree that there exists countries who would kill foreigners who would release their secrets.

So, now the next question is, do you believe that the U.S have Secret intel on other countries, such as N. Korea?

Edited, Dec 19th 2010 12:52am by Almalieque

You know finding stuff humorous is subjective right? How is it that you can define that statement as definitely "not funny" when other people find it funny? You aren't helping your cause. If other people find it funny, then there is something that you obviously aren't grasping. Once again, that's how humor typically works.




Likewise, I was giving you the benefit without a doubt that you weren't a complete mindless idiot that is just following a fad because it's cool, but I guess I was wrong. Your reply has ZERO substance. You claimed others made comparisons of me to Varus and Gbaji, I replied with substance stating that the only similarity between me and Varus is not agreeing with the mass. Your response is "you really are that stupid". That doesn't even make sense. There's no logical way to make that conclusion. So, by that, I can logically conclude that you're a mindless idiot following fads. See how that works? Simply calling someone stupid with nothing to back it up is counterproductive.




Edited, Dec 19th 2010 2:40am by Almalieque

You're right. It is subjective, but the subjectivity of humor is embedded in specific psychological and social contexts which are not subjective. Elementary school boys think saying the word "barf" is humorous. If a standup comic tried it in front of a crowd of adults, they'd flounder. And I've seen a lot of comedy in my life, enough to get a general sense of what other people find funny.

Sometimes people will laugh at something to be polite. I really doubt anybody found your statement genuinely humorous, to the point that I'm more inclined to believe that you're lying about other people finding it funny.



You never gave me the benefit of the doubt. You said in that very post that I picked the wrong side and that I was already in on the "laugh at Alma" "nonsense". You couldn't identify my reservation for passing judgment, and instead interpreted my perfectly reasonable skepticism as being rallied against you. Your inability to pick up on things like this that were not even subtle suggest to me that you're argumentative and not especially intelligent. And honestly, that's just the start. Half the things you've said since I've addressed you are not the kinds of things a respectably intelligent person would respond with.

The fact that you think I'm following some fad rather than genuinely thinking you're thick is really evidence enough. I have never cared what anyone on this forum thinks of me or anyone else. I don't particularly value their opinions. I don't feel any sense of belonging to the people who post here nor do I care to. Frankly, I think I'm probably the smartest person here, and I'm sure there are others who think the same of themselves. Maybe I'm not (though that I am very intelligent and well-educated is simply a fact), but I certainly don't place my faith in their opinions or intelligence. When I agree with someone, it's because I think they're right. When I disagree with someone, it's because I think they're wrong. And when I think someone's an idiot, it's because they can't articulate an argument in a way that makes logical sense or present themselves as something other than a raving lunatic.

Further, if you thought I was in some way trying to be productive, you misunderstand the reason I post here-- my personal amusement.

And I think we're going to have some fun.

On a side note, you know there's a number of public American figures who want him tried for treason? :O

I did get to the point and you didn't understand it, so I'm breaking it down for you, but I'll speed it up some. Yes, by secret, I mean "not known to the public". That was a typo on my part on capitalizing secret. Force of habit.

So, you agree that there is no country that wouldn't be upset about their secrets being exposed to the public.

You agree that there exists countries who would kill foreigners who would release their secrets.

You also agree that the U.S has secret intel on other countries.

So, it is safe to say that dumping thousands of U.S classified information may very well contain secrets from other countries of which would kill foreigners for releasing their secrets (such as N. Korea).

That fact substantiates my statement that he can very well be offed out of jail with no U.S. involvement.

Now, since you agree that there are multiple countries that would use illegal actions such as murder to solve their problems with no regards to politics, let there exist a country whose secrets were exposed in wikileaks.

What would probably be the only reason why this capable country wouldn't wish violence upon Mr. Assange if they have no remorse for doing such activities?

I'll help you if you don't know.

The only reason would be is if they didn't care, but you already agreed that there wouldn't be any country who wouldn't be upset from their secrets being released.

So by saying that no country wouldn't be upset that their secrets would be released, you are also including the countries that have no problem killing people they disagree with. So, from there you can't attack my statement as if it represents me or the U.S. Furthermore, that my statement, while was just a joke, represents the truth.



It wasn't my statement. People found it funny and you don't. Stop trying to prove that other people don't find things that they laugh at as funny. You can argue that certain subject matters are typically not or should not be taken as funny, but you're trying to prove that something is inherently not funny and that is just silly.

Everyone at my job thinks he should be punished with incarceration being the most polite form of punishment. So, again, this is obviously not a coincidence that everyone who thinks he should be punished(some including death) laughs at that comment and the ones who think he's some "Freedom fighter" don't think it's funny.



I do believe I gave you a benefit without a doubt because I'm me and I know what I was thinking. You said in that very post that you didn't give it much thought, which means that you just picked a side for the sake of picking a side and if you gave it more thought, it's possible that your opinion would change.

So, after reading that, I thought ok, maybe this person isn't a complete idiot and just is just going with the flow. That is what I meant by you picking the wrong side. That wrong side is the "laugh/disagree at Alma." When you replied with simply "You're an idiot" with no substance, then I realized that you are just a mindless idiot.



So where is this substance again? You talked a lot but you haven't explained how my response on the differences between me and Varus logically resulted in your conclusion of me being an idiot. At this point, either you're following a fad or you're just coincidentally just as stupid as the fad. Once again, I gave you the benefit without a doubt that it was the former, but if you insist it's the latter, then oh well.



Dude, it was a two person conversation. You weren't fooling anyone except that other poster who clearly was lost. I do recall you explaining to him that you weren't talking to him but me. Soooooooo I'm not quite sure how I'm the only one who missed that fact.. Looks like you're just making stuff up.. Man, you're really failing at this trolling business. Where's BT at when you need him? Maybe you can get some pointers.

This thread got really dumb really fast.