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Alma, you seem to be treating wikileaks as a source, when it's actually acting as a filter to make sure that information that could actually endanger soldiers in the field, for instance, is redacted. Without wikileaks, the leak would still have taken place, it would have just used a different outlet, and this one might not have tried to filter it at all. I think you're drawing a false separation between media outlets and wikileaks. There is no reason to think that the leaks would somehow have disappeared if wikileaks specifically wasn't around.

Edited, Dec 8th 2010 9:10am by Xsarus

So you're admitting the whole, "If you're going to include one, you have to include them all" line that you would repeatedly spout in the same sex marriage threads was just ******** and a ploy to turn the discussion away from an argument that you couldn't possibly hope to get the upper hand in?

I mean, we all knew that already. It's nice to see you realizing it, too.

After you steal something, you have to move it. I kinda feel bad for the kid who gave this stuff to Assange though, as he did all the work, gets none of the fame, & gets to sit in prison for a very long time.

Assange gets a rape trial whilst the kid gets raped.

Uh, companies are free to do what they want whatever Assange lovers do; they're private citizens who have every right to boycott companies for whatever reason they choose.

What Elinda said.

Corporate terrorism is apparently justified by wanting to stick it to the man.

I can't speak for Sweden but, in the US, it's the law enforcement and justice system that makes the determination of whether a crime was committed and should be prosecuted. If I go to the police and say my spouse "hit me in the face and ran out the door and could you help me find them?", the police may well choose to pursue it as an assault case regardless of how many newspapers I tell "they're really a good person and not violent and I was never scared or assaulted."

Mm, sexual assault is tricky in the US. These days it includes many examples of common occurrences that are technically illegal but many people view as normal behavior. e.g., sleeping with a drunk person while not drunk yourself

Though as a states-sider, it's a little boggling to me that from pretty much anywhere in Europe, legal prostitution is a short trip away. Seems more like punishing people for being too constrained to travel.

...What?

Just noting the irony of Assange's disciples punishing anyone for crossing their little cadre as they whine conspiracy theories about the government supposedly punishing Assange for crossing them.

Or, more clearly, they're making themselves look like jagoffs for no real good reason. Attacking Mastercard.com isn't going to make companies deal with Wikileaks any more than arresting Assange on rape charges is going to stop anyone from leaking private documents. But they're still high-fiving themselves for doing it.

Edited, Dec 8th 2010 3:04pm by Jophiel

Sure, depending on their reasons for supporting Assange what they are doing may well be moronic and hypocritical, but are their actions supported by or reflective of his base? Isn't this the work of a small, skilled group of hackers?

Alright, a legitimate confusion if you're ignorant of the correlation. Generally, countries with legal prostitution are more lax in their sexual assault laws (other than violent sexual assaults), and the rape rates are lower (as are "other" sexual assaults).

While rape is generally not about sex anyway, considering the nature of the accusations it sounds more like the guy just wanted to get some action without a rubber. I'd also be damned surprised if he could be convicted of anything in the countries with legal prostitution.

The essence of my comment was that it's hard for me to imagine not simply making a quick trip if you're that eager for some beaver to do your bidding. But maybe he really didn't know what he was doing.