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#27 Dec 07 2010 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
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After several weeks of hyperbole, accusing Asange of being a 'hi-tech terrorist' and an 'enemy of freedom' (lol), in a giant leap forward for free speech and press freedom, the founder of Wikileaks has been arrested in London on charges of 'having unprotected sex' and 'having sex with a woman while she was asleep'.


I understand the second charge, but wtf on the first one.
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#28 Dec 07 2010 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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He's arrested on rape charges.


Sexual misconduct.

And from the Guardian.

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One of the women involved in the sexual abuse allegations told (Aftonbladet) that she had voluntary relations with him and had never wanted him to be charged with rape, the Guardian said.

"He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him," she said — anonymously — according to the paper.


I'm sure its not political tho', seeing as how our glorious leaders are so up front an honest with us all.....Oh. Wait....
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#29 Dec 07 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Christian Science Monitor wrote:
The British Press Association reports that Mr. Assange is expected to appear in court Tuesday after being arrested by Scotland Yard's extradition unit at 9:30 a.m., according to a Metropolitan Police spokesman. The spokesman said that Assange voluntarily came to the London police station, where he was arrested on a European Arrest Warrant from Swedish authorities for "one count of unlawful coercion, two counts of sexual molestation and one count of rape, all alleged to have been committed in August 2010." The Press Association noted that the Metropolitan Police received an arrest warrant last month on the same charges, but the warrant was invalid because it was not properly filled out.

The bolded portion is presumably a quote from the Metropolitan Police spokesman.
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#30 Dec 07 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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The answer to this is to give all the people at Wikileaks brand-new babies. I swear, since I reproduced I could care less. I'm not saying it's admirable, just true.
#31 Dec 07 2010 at 1:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm pretty sure its couldn't care less.
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#32REDACTED, Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 1:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Brown,
#33 Dec 07 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty sure its couldn't care less.

Have you met a new mother on sleep dep? I'm pretty sure I don't want to assume either way when on the receiving end of the potential stream of hate and invective that might spew forth at a moment's notice.
#34 Dec 07 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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paulsol wrote:
I'm pretty sure its couldn't care less.
Stop humping my leg, you imbecile. I meant exactly what I said, not whatever twisted ridiculous version of the language you interpret from that a5shole of a country that spewed you out.

Edited, Dec 7th 2010 1:57pm by Atomicflea
#35 Dec 07 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
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The question now is, was the pressure by the U.S. government and the resulting action by Amazon an example of the infringment of free speech?


It's cute you think "free speech" is some kind of universal "right".
I lol'd. I shudder to think your reaction if these words ever fell off Obama's tongue.


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Does he not deserve any protection simply because the information was (formerly) classified?


He deserves the same protection as any terrorist threat to america.
Really?


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I mean, a lot of the info released points to some pretty bad things going on and some pretty extensive efforts to cover it up.


And a lot of the info released is putting the lifes of the US military abroad in peril.


Such as what?
#36 Dec 07 2010 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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He deserves the same protection as any terrorist threat to america.


I bet you'd like to kill all the journalists too.





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And a lot of the info released is putting the lifes of the US military abroad in peril.


You know whats putting a lot of US military in peril? Yup. Being 'abroad'.
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#37 Dec 07 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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paulsol wrote:
I'm pretty sure its couldn't care less.
Stop humping my leg, you imbecile. I meant exactly what I said, not whatever twisted ridiculous version of the language you interpret from that a5shole of a country that spewed you out.



What? Malta?

Hows the bub? All good? 8)
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#38 Dec 07 2010 at 2:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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We have intelligence that says Hitler is plotting with the Legion of Doom to buy yellow cake uranium from un-wedd teenage mothers so they can assassinate Jesus with WMDs....using wikileaks as a base.

Also 9-11 was bad.


Edited, Dec 7th 2010 4:12pm by Jimpadan
#39 Dec 07 2010 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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Obvious extradition setup is obvious. I think this the one time where anger from the Swiss populace could foil a plot.

We'll see.
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#40 Dec 07 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Default
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I bet you'd like to kill all the journalists too.


Only the ones that release information that threaten US soldiers safety in the field.

#41 Dec 07 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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I bet you'd like to kill all the journalists too.


Only the ones that release information that threaten US soldiers safety in the field.

What specific information has been given that is a direct threat to US soldiers? I asked you this already...
#42 Dec 07 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
Oh, what a coincidence.
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The original warrant predates the latest leaks. I don't think cause & effect works that way.

To be clear: I don't doubt that a special interest was taken in apprehending Assange or that anyone in the respective governments is upset about it. But that doesn't preclude the warrant and case against him being legitimate.

Edited, Dec 7th 2010 4:19pm by Jophiel
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#44 Dec 07 2010 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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The original warrant predates the latest leaks. I don't think cause & effect works that way.


I see.

Edited, Dec 7th 2010 10:18pm by Kavekk
#45 Dec 07 2010 at 4:22 PM Rating: Default
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Why should I bother?
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Kavekk wrote:
I see.

Yes. And?
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#47 Dec 07 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, it seems that the democracies in the West are only now realising that the internet and its information distribution capabilities can be used to target their shortcomings too. All that criticism from the 'enlightened' western leaders directed at the likes of the Chinese and others about their stranglehold on information that should be freely availiable were just political blah.

It would appear that those in power in the West have two choices...they either learn to live in a world where Wikileaks and others do their thing (which means that the politicians and others in office have to live with the implications of that and behave accordingly) or they can shut the Interwebz down.

Putting Julian Assange out of action will achieve nothing if the intention is to stop information being disseminated to the masses. I wonder if that has occured to them yet....?
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#48 Dec 07 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
lilwoc,

Why should I bother?
Because you're making a completely irrational claim without any examples or data to back it up? You're talking out of your ***. If you're just going to sit back and say "He's bad!" then please kindly sit in the corner and let the grown ups talk.
#49 Dec 07 2010 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still suspicious as to the actual intention of this whole fiasco. Especially given the latest release of "potential terror targets" attributed to wikileaks, which is interesting considering their website has been brought down. The timeline of events is curious.

-Wikileaks teases the public relatively quietly for a few years with some under-the-radar stories and publishings. No one but conspiracy theorists on the web pays attention.
-Wikileaks becomes a bit more vocal, heavily criticizing the Iraq war and other Middle-East issues, creates a stir with the publication of the US helicopter/collateral damage video.
-Vague rumblings from circulate around the internet about Washington wanting to put a stop to wikileaks.
-Wikileaks distributes an "insurance policy" file, encrypted, that will be unlocked if anything happens to them.
-The media begin to take notice of wikileaks.
-Wikileaks publishes several batches of high-security files, with no real theme. Some are damning, some are unremarkable.
-The media screams "traitor" (even though the supposed progenitor of wikileaks isn't an American citizen), the government appears furious
-Assange is suddenly and suspiciously accused of sex crimes, Amazon is suddenly and suspiciously ashamed of having hosted wikileaks and pulls the plug.
-Wikileaks publishes a list of potentially critical targets within the United States...why?

It sounds a lot like a Dan Brown novel in the making, to be honest. The series of events and motivations behind them is inconsistent and puzzling.
#50 Dec 07 2010 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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Believe in free press and freedom of speech and try to move our government towards a state where we say what we mean and aren't afraid if others find out.:11 (84.6%)
Censure, thought police, and kill any peaceful political dissident that dares to speak against the current administration.:2 (15.4%)
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#51 Dec 07 2010 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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The question now is, was the pressure by the U.S. government and the resulting action by Amazon an example of the infringment of free speech?


It's cute you think "free speech" is some kind of universal "right".
Well, we could always check that "Bill of Rights" thing and see what it says.
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