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#27 Nov 10 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is having your phone tell you that you have the clap after you've contracted the clap really a "safety net"?

I suppose I can agree with some people "testing" themselves immediately after before the disease can manifest and saying "I'm safe!" but then people rationalize away all sorts of things and the type to rush the test for the sake of self comfort is probably the type to not see a doctor until their wiener is purple and oozing something rancid anyway.

Not that the test will revolutionize society and I sure as hell wouldn't trust my iPhone to tell me if I have teh HIV or not but it won't hurt things any either.

Edited, Nov 10th 2010 8:35am by Jophiel
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#28 Nov 10 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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How does an STI test provide "safer sex"? It doesn't at all. What it does do is exactly what a few posters have commented on: It makes people think that sax is "safer".
Bull.

You can't argue your stupid premises based off what YOU think people will or will not do. The technology simply provides a test to check for a disease. If more people learn, and learn sooner that they have a communicable disease it will stem the spread of that disease. This premise has been worked time and again despite the very small percentage that may misunderstand and/or misuse the information they're provided.

Come on, you can't seriously suggest people don't engage in riskier behavior when they have supposed "safety nets".
Sure some do, but the safety net is going to catch more than it promotes - ultimately a net gain in curbing the spread of a disease. Besides, it's just some manly fantasy that something like an std test is gonna make women easier to get a lay out of.



Edited, Nov 10th 2010 3:36pm by Elinda
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#29 Nov 10 2010 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
Jophiel wrote:
Is having your phone tell you that you have the clap after you've contracted the clap really a "safety net"?

I suppose I can agree with some people "testing" themselves immediately after before the disease can manifest and saying "I'm safe!" but then people rationalize away all sorts of things and the type to rush the test for the sake of self comfort is probably the type to not see a doctor until their wiener is purple and oozing something rancid anyway.

Not that the test will revolutionize society and I sure as hell wouldn't trust my iPhone to tell me if I have teh HIV or not but it won't hurt things any either.

Edited, Nov 10th 2010 8:35am by Jophiel

My supposition is that it will be used to test a potential partner before the business of getting down to business is gotten down to.

GIRL: Wait, before you touch me with that thing, pee on my phone.
BOY: W T everloving F?!?
GIRL: It'll tell me if you have the clap.
BOY: Sh:t.
#30 Nov 10 2010 at 9:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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My supposition is that it will be used to test a potential partner before the business of getting down to business is gotten down to.

I hadn't considered that. I guess being removed from the realm of finding random loose women has dulled my skills in avoiding **** plague.
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#31 Nov 10 2010 at 9:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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My supposition is that it will be used to test a potential partner before the business of getting down to business is gotten down to.

I hadn't considered that. I guess being removed from the realm of finding random loose women has dulled my skills in avoiding **** plague.

No one is ever really removed from that realm. The amount of alcohol it takes to get there increases due to circumstance, but we're all just a few more beers away from bending a bar ***** over a bumper in the parking lot and plowing her like a newly snow-free cornfield.
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MoebiusLord wrote:
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My supposition is that it will be used to test a potential partner before the business of getting down to business is gotten down to.

I hadn't considered that. I guess being removed from the realm of finding random loose women has dulled my skills in avoiding **** plague.

No one is ever really removed from that realm. The amount of alcohol it takes to get there increases due to circumstance, but we're all just a few more beers away from bending a bar ***** over a bumper in the parking lot and plowing her like a newly snow-free cornfield.
Sounds like an excuse.

Guy, "she wouldn't take her panties off for me because I wouldn't pee on her phone".

Other Guy, "yeah, sure".

Hahahahaha


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#33 Nov 10 2010 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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1. This means that they're justifying after the fact. Just because they use the test after, it didn't affect their decision to have unprotected sex the night before.


Not quite. They use the test after the last time they had sex, too soon for the test to pickup the STI, assuming it's even an STI that can be tested that way. They're clean right? I mean they haven't had sex since their last test so that burning must just be from their soap. They're good to go, with a STI clean report to show their partner on their phone. Don't need a condom, because their both clean according to their iphone7...

It's not a safety net, but it looks like one. The solution as you said is better sexual education, but I don't see that happening.
#34 Nov 10 2010 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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The solution as you said is better sexual education, but I don't see that happening.

In fairness, a solution is better sex ed. The only fool-proof solution is quit f'ucking. That could prove problematic for survival of the species, though.
#35 Nov 10 2010 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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That could prove problematic for survival of the species, though.


Forget the species, think of the damage it would to the **** industry!
#36 Nov 10 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
1. This means that they're justifying after the fact. Just because they use the test after, it didn't affect their decision to have unprotected sex the night before.


Not quite. They use the test after the last time they had sex, too soon for the test to pickup the STI,
If they use a cellphone you have to assume some level of cognition. I bet the test tells, probably both on a written direction sheet and verbally within your iphone app, just what the test tells you or doesn't, what it's limitations are, etc, etc

I mean we can always assume all people know absolutely nothing and are incapable of making the most rudimentary decisions about their lives. Therefore we give them no tools or no knowledge...because you know...they might just misuse the info to try and get laid.
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#37 Nov 10 2010 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
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If they use a cellphone you have to assume some level of cognition.

That's like saying if a person can get on the internet you have to assume some basic level of cognition.

HAVE YOU READ A VARUS POST?!?
#38 Nov 10 2010 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote=Yodabunny]If they use a cellphone you have to assume some level of cognition.


Have you seen some of the apps for the iphone? No cognition required.
#39 Nov 10 2010 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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If they use a cellphone you have to assume some level of cognition.
Hmm.

They make "Canned Tuna with Mayo". If mixing a bit of mayo with some flaked fish is beyond your abilities, how the fUck do they expect you to open a can?

As for the OP, spent the day at Microsoft's EU campus working with a range of web enabled devices for remote monitoring heart-rate, blood pressure etc. Thankfully, none of 'em required me to **** on 'em.
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They make "Canned Tuna with Mayo". If mixing a bit of mayo with some flaked fish is beyond your abilities, how the fUck do they expect you to open a can?

Wouldn't "Canned Tuna with Mayo" be for eating whilst away from your fridge and its copious supplies of mayonnaise? And I assume the can has a flip tab.
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#41 Nov 10 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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They make "Canned Tuna with Mayo". If mixing a bit of mayo with some flaked fish is beyond your abilities, how the fUck do they expect you to open a can?

Wouldn't "Canned Tuna with Mayo" be for eating whilst away from your fridge and its copious supplies of mayonnaise? And I assume the can has a flip tab.

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#42 Nov 11 2010 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard this on the radio a few days ago, my only question is, did they not think of creating the same invention as not part of the phone?
#43 Nov 11 2010 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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I heard this on the radio a few days ago, my only question is, did they not think of creating the same invention as not part of the phone?

Likely because it is cheaper to produce a non-powered sensor accessory to take advantage of the existing product's electricity, computing power and communications capability than it would be to start from scratch re-doing all of that.

Of course, a guy as smart as you already knew that and you're just testing us, right?
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I heard this on the radio a few days ago, my only question is, did they not think of creating the same invention as not part of the phone?
How else are they supposed to secretly transmit your test results to a national STI database?
#45Almalieque, Posted: Nov 11 2010 at 2:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Of course, a guy as smart as you obviously knows that people are more likely to buy a separate device rather than pissing on their phone if given a choice. Furthermore, that difference of choice would not only make up the difference in cost, but gain profit as well. Now, somebody is just going to Deebo their idea and profit off of it, but of course you knew that.
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Almalieque wrote:
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I heard this on the radio a few days ago, my only question is, did they not think of creating the same invention as not part of the phone?

Likely because it is cheaper to produce a non-powered sensor accessory to take advantage of the existing product's electricity, computing power and communications capability than it would be to start from scratch re-doing all of that.

Of course, a guy as smart as you already knew that and you're just testing us, right?


Of course, a guy as smart as you obviously knows that people are more likely to buy a separate device rather than pissing on their phone if given a choice. Furthermore, that difference of choice would not only make up the difference in cost, but gain profit as well.


Not really. Presumably, such a test device wont work for repeated uses (or will have some limited number of uses). Thus, the reactive component (the part that interacts with the pee chemically and generates readable results) would ideally need to be something cheap and replaceable. You'd want the part that reads that data and calculates results separate. Now, you could make a separate device for that part, or you could design the disposable part to be something you can just plug into an existing device (like a phone) and then run a software app to read results. That's vastly more cost effective since most people already have a phone capable of running the app and most also have some form of input port which can be connected to.

Also, don't lose sight of the fact that this is development coming from the smart phone side, not the other way around. The push is to create more uses for a phone, not to find a better way to test for STIs.
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What Jophiel Euh.... Gbaji said.
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Also, don't lose sight of the fact that this is development coming from the smart phone side, not the other way around. The push is to create more uses for a phone, not to find a better way to test for STIs.
You were doing so well up to this point.

I'm working with a wide range of medics and 'ologists' who are looking for developers for apps and devices to meet their needs.

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#49 Nov 11 2010 at 3:00 PM Rating: Default
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Gbaji wrote:
The push is to create more uses for a phone, not to find a better way to test for STIs.


I have to disagree with this, which supports my claim. With the numerous borderline useless applications out for phones, this seems more like a STI convenience than another application.
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Also, don't lose sight of the fact that this is development coming from the smart phone side, not the other way around. The push is to create more uses for a phone, not to find a better way to test for STIs.
You were doing so well up to this point.

I'm working with a wide range of medics and 'ologists' who are looking for developers for apps and devices to meet their needs.



Hehehee... Sorry. That's just funny is all. Want to take a wild guess as to how long ago phone chipset developers pinned some of their new designs on the idea that "Someday, maybe the medical industry could find use for phones which could communicate to remote devices that can do things like monitor health in real time, test blood sugar levels for diabetics, and maybe run any of a number of other sorts of tests. Let's see if we can create a market for this!". I guess the old saying "if you build it, they will come" must be true...
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#51 Nov 11 2010 at 4:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Darling gbaji

You posted something that made you sound like an cUnt.

I pointed out your cUntiness.

For the bajillionth time, your verbose, blithering lolriposte set out to uncUnt yourself, but simply cUntified yourself more deeply.

It has been an constant truth since the 1800s that medicine has striven to find ways for science and technology to meet unmet needs.

GFY you rancid honey-badger's cUnt.

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