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#27 Nov 08 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Or just be the bull *****/closet **** that takes part in the bullying and takes the "dog pile" a bit to far.
#28 Nov 30 2010 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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There's consistency in this set of leaks.

Most "Democratic" governments want to keep as much of their conduct on our behalf below the radar of public scrutiny.

So to those who claim these leaks put us "In harm's way", GFY.

0.01% of the leaks have the potential to put citizens at risk.

99.99% of the leaks show that our biggest threat is the toe-rags we elected. FUck 'em all. Expose their hypocrisy, corruption, lack of judgement and elistist arrogance.

Publish and be damned!


ETA - Admins - fix these fUckin' thread crossovers you bunch of amateur cUnts.

That's the 3rd time I've replied to a post and seen the preview appear in an adjacent thread.

Edited, Nov 30th 2010 3:10pm by Nobby
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#29REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 2:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Debo,
#30REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 2:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Moe,
#31 Nov 30 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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- I doubt any good parent would make such claims as to disown a child who finds they are gay, but would you try and discourage 'gay' behavior if you spotted it early on?

- What is more important as a parent: allowing and encouraging your child to be themselves, follow their dreams etc etc, or to protect them from vocal if not physical bullying and/or violence that is likely to occur if they do appear outwardly gay?


It's a complicated problem, for sure. Gender roles and sexuality don't operate on a 1:1 ratio. Effeminate males are straight, macho guys are gay, etc. A young kid being interested in activities outside their gender role doesn't indicate their future sexuality. I played with girl toys when they were available, and I remember seeing some of the commercials for girl toys growing up and being envious of them. But by the time puberty hit, even though I was among the least masculine males in my school at the time, I was still interested in only girls. Today, my girlfriend and I joke about how our gender roles are reversed in many ways. We're both androgynous in certain ways-- she likes sports and beer, and I'd rather go shopping for home decor. But of the two of us, I'm not the bicurious one.

However, young kids are also not so good with the finer points of morality. Specifically, children tend to view a break in gender norms as a moral offense. Boys are supposed to be a certain way just like boys aren't supposed to steal. Ultimately, it's hard to be accepted for your differences in early childhood. I once worked with a 4-year old boy who was decidedly feminine, and he was rejected by the other boys, while his only real friend was a Hispanic girl, who was the outcast of the girls. Kids learn to pick on those different from them early on.

There's no simple answer. Accepting your child's decisions can be an opportunity for other children to learn about the arbitrary nature of gender roles and to be accepting of differences. It can also be an opportunity for your child to be bullied mercilessly. As with any child, the important thing is that you're vigilant and ensure that they're being put in an environment that is safe for them.
#32REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 3:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kachi,
#33 Nov 30 2010 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Can you read? Did I even need to ask?

I didn't say you should accept your child's decision. I said what could happen if you do.

But your statement that liberal kids are ****** for life is lololol. Were you raised by conservative parents? Because that's all the evidence I'd need to not do the same to mine.
#34REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 3:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kachi,
#35 Nov 30 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Good
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If I recall correctly Varus is raised in a strict Christian (baptist?) family so he's been living in a very small and very well protected world for all of his life.
#36 Nov 30 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Default
Aethia,

Actually most of my family on my fathers side are extreme radical liberals, they're big in the nashville dem scene.

My father broke with them when he realized they were all full of sh*t.

And i've lived on the east coast, gulf coast, west coast, and europe so I'm fairly certain i'm one of the few people on this forum that can claim this.

If you want to talk about "well protected" why don't you look at the reputation bluff rats have in corpus.

#37 Nov 30 2010 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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I wasn't talking about a physical space when I said a small world.
#38 Nov 30 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I wasn't talking about a physical space when I said a small world.


You just blew his mind.
#39 Nov 30 2010 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I wasn't talking about a physical space when I said a small world.


But, but.....he's been to Europe!! (Once)
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#40REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 4:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Paula,
#41 Nov 30 2010 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still not talking about physical space Varus.

Edit: And Europe isn't really one place. There's quite some difference between say Norway and Italy.

Edited, Nov 30th 2010 11:57pm by Aethien
#42REDACTED, Posted: Nov 30 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Aethia,
#43 Nov 30 2010 at 5:40 PM Rating: Good
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And if I was raised by hippies?


Aside from having established that you weren't, I would find it difficult to accept your premise in light of your own admission that you're damaged goods.
#44 Nov 30 2010 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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varusword75 wrote:
Debo,

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My son has started browsing through the pink Barbie pages in the Toys R' Us fliers. I sigh, shake my head, and continue to love him just as much as ever.

Homophobe.

Nope.
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#45 Dec 01 2010 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
And Europe isn't really one place. There's quite some difference between say Norway and Italy.

All the maps I've ever seen just have a big green spot labeled "O'er There".
#46 Dec 01 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Default
Debo,

Why would you sigh and shake your head in derision if the behaviour was something you approved of?

#47 Dec 01 2010 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
varusword75 wrote:
Debo,

Why would you sigh and shake your head in derision if the behaviour was something you approved of?

I'd ask if you were familiar with the multiple meanings of a head shake, but the question would imply a basic understanding of human behavior. It just isn't worth it.
#48 Dec 01 2010 at 9:58 AM Rating: Default
Moe,

Depends on if he was shaking his head horizontally or vertically. And when I imagine debo having to put up with his wife dressing his little boy up like a little girl I tend to think the head shake was of the horizontal nature.

Deciphering body language is obviously something of a foreign concept with you.

#49 Dec 01 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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varusword75 wrote:
Actually most of my family on my fathers side are extreme radical liberals, they're big in the nashville dem scene.

This is pretty funny since Varus has bragged before about how his father's side was driving around in Rolls Royces while his family lived in tenement squalor.

These days, Varus thinks hitting the big time is a five year old Altima with a multi-disc CD changer.

Edited, Dec 1st 2010 10:35am by Jophiel
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#50 Dec 01 2010 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
varusword75 wrote:
Deciphering body language is obviously something of a foreign concept with you.

Yeah, a vertical head "shake" is called a nod, genius.
#51 Dec 01 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Default
Moe,

Ah but debo clearly said he'd sigh and shake his head, not nod his head. I don't blame you I blame govn schools for your condition.

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